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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. DaDakota

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    KPJ needs a system - Silas is not helping anyone.

    DD
     
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  2. Reeko

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    no one is happy that KPJ sucks...I don't watch him miss shots and make bad decisions and start smiling and feeling happy

    I wasn't giddy and gleeful that he needed 18 shots and 15 free throws to score 20 points last night

    his play pisses me off

    don't mistake telling it like it is for being happy that he's not playing well...people are tired of the constant excuse making, illogical arguments, and gaslighting
     
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    Went to the FT line 15 times and barely makes half. Just pathetic.
     
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    dropped his free throw percentage 4 whole points in just 1 game
     
  5. PeterKingX

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    This
     
  6. clutchdabear

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    I'm sure that people aren't necessarily pleased that KPJ has been an utter failure, but rather at the KPJ superfans who were calling any KPJ critic out for their apparent lack of bball knowledge even when given valid, irrefutable data and in-game examples showing otherwise. Obviously, nothing to be proud about but nothing about the Rockets right now is good so there's that.

    Personally, I (and I'm sure many here who seem to be anti-KPJ) wanted KPJ to prove us wrong as that would fast-forward this rebuild. Now, after seeing how much worse he is than before and with all the entitlement that he's for some reason been rewarded with by this organization, I can't wait to see him gone so that he no longer cripples the team that I'm a die-hard for. Do I want to see him fail as an NBA player? No. I'm sure in some scenario, there is a chance for him to succeed, but I know full well that chance will not be with us. We aren't the right fit for KPJ no matter how hard we try. It was great for the Rockets to have saved KPJ from his lowest point, but ultimately we shouldn't be responsible for his success as well. I don't want him anywhere near this team knowing that these next few years of developing our blue-chip prospects the right way will make or break the Rockets' success for the next 10 years.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    What data exactly? The 12-14 months of PG play without a system in place?

    Do these alleged people that supposedly know basketball realize that statistics are not the final call, but only a tool to help see what is going on.....and the reality is that it is more an indictment of a lack of system than any one player?

    Think about it, the player that are somewhat doing well are those that play hard but aren't necessarily in a system...Eason, KMJ, Tate etc....

    Sengun is doing well, but he basically brings his own danged system.....which is awesome.

    None of our guards, are doing great - there are moments for them all, but they are all playing hero ball,,,,, Green is just hitting more shots.

    DD
     
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    My bad for misreading your serious proposal of taking KPJ out of the lineup as sarcasm.

    I hate KPJ fans and Sengun fans going after each other's throat. We are Rockets fans. I think you have been overzealous in fighting anyone who criticize KPJ, like those Sengun fans fighting every criticism and mocking whoever don't agree with them.
     
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    Green literally set up Sengun beautifully the past few games they played together.

    Come on dude. Green is showing the most improvement especially with his pnr ball handling. Are you watching games or box score watching?

    The system is Green and Sengun. That should be the system. That doesn't mean either are going to be pgs.
     
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    Spot on
     
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    Obviously Silas is a big part of why this has been such a shtshow and he never puts his players in position to succeed nor does he have the balls to actually instill discipline. But KPJ can't even run a basic PnR that any lead guard should be able to do after all these years. Sure, stats don't tell the whole story. But I know I'm not the only one here who's played ball religiously for my whole life and we know what we are seeing. Even after good screens set by Alpi, KJ, or Usman, KPJ almost always puts himself in a worse position somehow and it shows because he's one of the most inefficient players at running PnR in the NBA and he's basically only efficient as a catch-and-shoot 3 pt threat. He's way too dependent on his herky-jerky hesitation moves that leads to nowhere, has way too much indecision (basically shows that he never prepares or watches game film to know where his teammates will be nor does he study any of the previous greats at his position), has no idea how to control tempo, and hasn't shown the type of vision that is required for a lead guard.

    For all the talk of Harden partying, when he was tasked with PG duties by MDA, there were stories where Harden said he went back and pored over film of Nash so that he could try to envision things playing out in his head before he even stepped on the court. What the hell did KPJ do other than try to perfect his iso moves with Chris Brickley?

    I agree with you on that not all of this is KPJ's fault... the organization from top down has a lot of responsibility in this for just handing the keys to KPJ in a role that he shouldn't have had to begin with. But it's going to be way too difficult for KPJ to get in the right headspace to succeed in Houston after what has happened so far, and for Houston and for KPJ's benefit, he needs to find a fresh start somewhere else.
     
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    Tyus Jones? Ben Simmons? Colby from the Bulls? We need a PG seriously. He needs to be demoted to SF or 6th Man but he is going to act up...who is going to tell him. This is Silas explaining to KPJ about his demotion.

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    It's read and react.

    KPJ is 14 seconds left, read, read, read uh oh this book sucks 7 seconds left i better react with something
     
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    DD said it’s all Silas fault.
     
  16. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I have gone from a KPJ believe to a KPJ non-believer. He's a ball hog and doesn't how how to make the smart decisions that gets his teammates involved.
     
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    KPJ is an NBA talent. If Stone wants to give him a chance, that’s perfectly fine.
    What you don’t do is decide he is a modern day Grant Hill and make him your franchise type player.
     
  18. Nook

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    KPJ needs a role that fits his ability and skill set.
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    How much skill does it take to pass the ball before you run into a wall of defenders?
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Modern day George Hill
     
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