The incredible transformation of Justin Brooks Verlander

Kate Upton is the primary reason for all the recent success.

 

When thinking about signing Verlander to what he wants everyone is mistakenly thinking with their heads or their heart, but really, they should be thinking with their dicks.

 

Is it possible that Verlander is the reason of the Click/Crane rift?

 

Absolutely....DO NOT sign him to big money/multiple years...We would end up as bag holders.

 

I have never seen such a great personification of the hubris of man.

 

I'm sure it's her huge personality that attracts all the attention that she gets.

 

I thought it was her huuuge.... tracts of land.

 

3 years 105 million with the 3rd year being a team option.

 

Unfortunately the market and other team's interest and budget will determine what he gets, not his performance, or projected performance.

I think teams like the Yankees, Dodgers, (especially) Mets and Rangers will offer multiple years and $40M+ AAV.

If the deals are close he may return at a slight discount not not a big one.

I think 2yrs/$90 or 3yrs/$120 would be bare bones least that could be hoped for.

 

I am afraid you are right but that is more than I would be willing to risk on someone his age.

 

I think JV will be a top 50-60 starting pitcher for at least 3 more seasons and would not be concerned with a 3 or 4 year deal if that's what it takes to keep him.

Nolan Ryan pitched over 200 innings each of his 40-43 seasons, won the ERA title at 40, and won 71 games including 2 no hitters after age 40.

Randy Johnson pitched 200+ innings in his ages 40-42 season and came back with 184 in age 44. He won 73 games after age 40.

Roger Clemens (though aided?) Was an all-star in ages 40, 41, and 42. Won the Cy Young at 41 and ERA title at age 42 and won 61 games after age 40.

I see Verlander just like these guys.

I would bet he has at least 3 very good seasons left.

 

I just don't agree with all the people saying he is not worth the risk for ages 40-43.

 

Yes. Peaks have more ground surface than flat land

 

Keri is one of my dream girls

Timbo is a dream producer

 

Verlander is a conundrum for many because of his age. His 2022 CY Young campaign has been age defying, and he has earned the right to get a contract more in line with his value.

The only signs he showed of slowing down was his playoff performances. How many folks would go berserk if the way he pitched in game 1 against Seattle, or game one against the Phillies became more his regular. After all he’s no spring chicken.

On the other hand, if he continuous 2022 regular season camp; imagine all the records he stands to break in the next 2 and 3 seasons.

I can honestly see an argument for and against giving him the full market value.

 

What is full market value though? We're all guessing.

Scherzer got $43.3m AAV and already way underperformed that. Is FMV for a guy 2 years older the same amount? more? less?

If JV wants a similar 3 year/$130m contract, I say thanks for the memories and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

If he is willing to go year to year, I could see him getting $35-40m AAV... but guaranteeing >$100m to a 40+ y/o seems nuts.

 

He is 39, will be 40 before opening day and wants to pitch into his mid 40s.

He just had a CY Young season and has all the leverage.

He won't sign a 1 year deal. He has no reason to risk that.

He will get paid by someone.

Any any fan from any team that WANTS to pass on him because he wants 3 years ( or maybe 4 I'm on the fence) is ridiculous and does not deserve to experience a World Series championship.

Pay the man.

 

Rangers will definitely pay him 180mil/4

 

Lol. I don't "deserve to experience a world series championship". Laying it on a bit thick there guy. We can disagree. You'll notice I never said you were a worse fan for wanting to sign him to a 3 year deal. I just prefer not to. I happen to believe it makes more sense to pay Kyle Tucker $180m over the next 6 than Verlander 120-160m over the next 3-4 years.