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Elon vs Twitter update: Elon helped America win , Tesla stock through the roof

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Mar 26, 2022.

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Who is for democracy?

  1. Elon

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    57.6%
  2. Twitter

    9 vote(s)
    15.3%
  3. Chinese democracy by Guns N Roses

    16 vote(s)
    27.1%
  1. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Biden doesn't know who Elon Musk is. And Biden is Ford's spokesperson. Lulz.

    But yee. In theory. You'd think someone like Elon could be compromised. And he has vabluable intel/data via Twitter. Probably Starlink too. You could say the same about Trump, Gates, etc..
     
  2. Major

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    Now, anyone can scam a lot of people and cause a lot of chaos in the few hours before they get caught, for the low price of $8.
     
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  3. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Given even my own childish temptations, in middle age, I can only imagine this will become a sort of low-cost recreation. How long can you keep a vaguely fake account going, and with how many followers? It's like a cheap video game you can play with your friends! Damn, it actually makes me want to start an account for like the first time ever. I could try to be the real life TJ, Sam Fisher, or Sir Jackie. :D

    But seriously, the fidelity could become so low, with the noise so high, that it could become a glorified type of 4chan. But as long as it's profitable, I guess he would not care (?)
     
  4. Major

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    I think this part will fall off soon - it's just Day #1 nonsense. But actual scams? People pretending to be Elon and saying "send me 0.02 BTC and get 0.04 BTC" or getting people to click to fake websites or virus links or whatnot? That stuff will be profitable. It's basically a way to legitimize your scam.
     
  5. durvasa

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    Gotta love the selective editing of quotes in this tweet.


    Q Mr. President, do you think Elon Musk is a threat to U.S. national security? And should the U.S. — and with the tools you have — investigate his joint acquisition of Twitter with foreign governments, which include the Saudis?

    THE PRESIDENT: (Laughs.) I think that Elon Musk’s cooperation and/or technical relationships with other countries is worthy of being looked at. Whether or not he is doing anything inappropriate, I’m not suggesting that. I’m suggesting that it wor- — worth being looked at. And — and — but that’s all I’ll say.
     
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  6. Major

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    (from the NR, who supported Elon's purchase)

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/elon-musks-first-big-twitter-change-makes-no-sense/

    Elon Musk’s First Big Twitter Change Makes No Sense

    I must confess to being extremely confused as to what Elon Musk is trying to achieve with his revamped system of “blue checks” on Twitter. As far as I can see, Musk has taken a system that was, indeed, badly broken, and simply broken it in another way.

    The initial purpose of the blue-check system was to affirm that a given Twitter user was, in fact, who that user said he was, and thereby to avoid impersonation online. In theory, this system should have (1) been available to everyone, and (2) been entirely neutral in its application. But it wasn’t, and people correctly complained about that. In practice, only well-connected people could be verified — which created a sort of class system on Twitter — and, worse still, Twitter sometimes conditioned maintenance of the blue check on good behavior.

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    When Musk first started talking about buying Twitter, he suggested that he would like to verify every single human Twitter user in the world. Whether practical or not, this made total sense as an aim, because the purpose of verification is . . . well, verification. When Musk took over Twitter last month, he seemed to be continuing down this road when he complained that Twitter’s present verification system reminded him of “lords and peasants.”


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    But then, he . . . well, he did nothing of the sort. Twitter’s new approach is to offer users the opportunity to pay $8/month for a service called Twitter Blue, which, among other things, will accord an automatic blue check to its subscribers. From a business perspective, this is understandable: Twitter needs to make a profit, and this is a way of quickly injecting cash. But, outside of that, it makes no sense at all. Twitter’s website confirms that “all accounts subscribed to Twitter Blue on iOS on or after November 9, 2022 will automatically receive a blue checkmark, which will persist for the duration of the subscribers’ subscription term.” In other words — and I’ve confirmed this personally — there is no verification process at all. Obviously, this completely undermines the purpose of a verification badge, which is to confirm that a user actually is who he says he is, and, obviously, it does nothing to solve the two-tier “lords and peasants” problem, because it costs far more ($96/year) than most people will be willing or able to pay.

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    Which is all to say that, far from altering or fixing what he perceived to be the problem — namely, that the blue-check system had drifted from its original purpose and become a capriciously awarded and maintained status symbol — Musk has now reinforced it. It made no sense, on pre-Musk Twitter, to hand verification symbols only to prominent people of whom Twitter’s owners approved. And it makes no sense, on Musk’s Twitter, to hand verification symbols to people who haven’t actually been verified. That’s not a fix, it’s revenge, and, while it may feel good in the moment, it is probably not going to help Musk achieve the lofty and admirable goals that he talked about before he was handed the keys to the kingdom.
     
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  7. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    This guy is a massive control freak. He literally is vetting all 'exceptions' himself. Sending emails in the middle of the night, which shows a massive lack of curtesy for his employees.

    Twitter is going to fail big time. No talented coder is going to hang around for this ****.

    I wish I had 44b to **** around and find out with.
     
  8. Major

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    I wonder how Elon works on-site at both Tesla (based in TX) and Twitter (based on CA). Or do the rules not apply to him?
     
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  9. Space Ghost

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    Of course you don't care about the not verified users accounts who were constantly getting spoofed and these spoof accounts being used for fraudulent reasons.

    We must protect the elite at all cost!
     
  10. Major

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    That was the benefit of the verification process in the check-mark. Users had a way to identify spoofed accounts. Now they don't.

    Yes, now we have equal opportunity scamming for all, as long as you pay Twitter. Excellent progress.
     
  11. B-Bob

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    Yeah, I have to say, knowing a lot of Silicon Valley peeps, that ending remote work will drain his talent pool faster than any other step he could take. *Shrug* Maybe he thinks he doesn't need talent to run a digital free-for-all, and maybe that's true.
     
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  12. SamFisher

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    Don't forget SpaceX (LA) - do you think he sleeps 2 hours a night at each location? And then maybe catnaps at Neuralink, Boring Co., etc.
     
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    I have to say I am impressed they managed to get this 8 dollar thing live within a week? How is that even possible. I wish my teams were as fast.
     
  14. B-Bob

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    But just not for your worst ideas though. :D
     
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  15. Space Ghost

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    It's safe to say if Elon Musk is messaging you, it's fraud.

    Again, you don't care about the average twitter contributor who was not elite enough to get verified.

    Additionally it's been a week or so and the critics are complaining Elon hasn't fixed a decade of problems. Why do people think Elon os God and can fix everything with the snap of his fingers.
     
  16. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    He's fine to do it. He is running employees off on purpose.

    He wants to shed all the people that wont put up with his tactics and only employee the people that want to be there. It's probably a good move. Basically - you kill the insurgents and surround yourself with koolaid drinkers. There will be PLENTY of good tech employees looking for jobs. And there's always H1B/outsource.
     
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    very fine people on both sides
     
  18. Major

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    Fake LeBron was retweeted like 20,000 times before he was caught. What happens if that person had posted a 2nd tweet with a link to a scam website?

    No I don't particularly care much about them. I care more about the many millions of people who use twitter to get information no longer being able to trust that information. Joe Biden getting a blue check mark doesn't protect Joe Biden - it protects the millions of people who see his tweets from being duped by Fake Joe Biden.

    Probably because that's how he acts. If he doesn't think he can fix things immediately, he probably shouldn't fire half the staff without checking who's actually needed. Probably shouldn't demand employees work all night to implement features that don't work or that he scraps a few hours later. It's why normal people, when they buy companies, take time to understand them. He wanted to make changes immediately, so that's the standard we judge him by. You and tinman are the only ones that actually treat him like God.
     
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  19. MadMax

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    I deactivated my Twitter account. It's not what I initially signed up for anymore. You're stuck with me here, though.
     
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  20. SamFisher

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    LOL:

    The roughly 45-minute long conversation was wide-ranging, with Musk addressing a number of other aspects of the service, including his plans for an $8-per-month subscription service and hopes of building more commerce into Twitter.

    He said Twitter is also considering ways to encourage people to connect their bank or credit card accounts to the social network, possibly even the idea of moving cash into the service and holding it like a bank.

    I posted this a month ago, but it's still true:

    Now the World's Richest Man is basically some combo of Lumberg from Office Space and a Nigerian email scammer - I can't think of a worse outcome if I'm a true-blue Elon MUSKLORD like @AroundTheWorld @Commodore @Space Ghost @tinman 0 - with a large portion of my wellbeing correlated to MUSKVIBES - you can't meme your way out of this disaster.
     

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