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2022 Midterms

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Xerobull, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. justtxyank

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    Most analysts think he will still be speaker, but he'll have to take a lot of facials from the crazies to get them to vote for him.

    Who knows what level of debasement he'll agree to in order to secure the spot. Committee assignments, impeachment, etc. is all on the table. Let's say he has a 3 seat majority. That means if MTG, Boebert and Jim Jordan lock arms and demand impeachment, they could block him from speaker if he doesn't agree.

    So, in short, expect McCarthy to be a horribly ineffective and powerless speaker, manipulated by the extreme 10% of the House or risk being deposed.
     
  2. Major

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    If it's only a few seats, it seems possible every single GOP member is going to have veto power over the speaker and whoever wins it will have to sell their soul to do it. MTG or Boebert could say we won't for ANYONE that doesn't give them both a spot on the appropriations committee or whatnot. It could be a total trainwreck.
     
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    Exactly. McCarthy still the strong favorite because a nutjob speaker has almost zero support. But McCarthy will basically be a bang bros actress for these tools. They'll abuse him and he'll take it because he's desperate to be speaker.
     
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    This also tells you just how amazing Pelosi has been as Speaker to keep her caucus united and actually able to pass things.
     
  5. justtxyank

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    Love her or hate her, she's an objectively dominant politicians. She's a total badass at her job. She even b****slapped her progressive wing multiple times and still got them to bend the knee.
     
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    I'm not blaming the court per say. The courts SHOULD strike down comically partisan gerrymanders. They should also be striking those down here in Texas too. It's just that the courts in NY where for whatever reason they operated as if gerrymanders should be democratic, and the courts in state like Florida and Texas operate as though they went to law school attending special classes at 4 Seasons Lawncare by Rudy Guilliani.

    But the simple fact is... hyper partisan gerrymandering was allowed in all red states... some blue states.... but not in NY... which cost the Democrats a few House seats.

    Maybe a few other things also happened too such as Lee Zeldin's good performance lifting up some House races, but the courts striking down the gerrymander was the primary thing that cost the Democrats a few seats. Not really complaining about that as I am complaining about Texas, Florida, and the Supreme Court more so.
     
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    That lying pig of a man being elected as a Senator is more than absurd. It's disturbing to think there are that many people would trust him making choices that affect this nation. He is a just a black pawn being used to fill a spot in the game they play to get a dumb jock yes man to say what they want him to say and do as he's asked.
     
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    I'm thinking it's going to look a lot like the UK with Theresa May as PM. Then a small Northern Irish Protestant Party was able to hold May's agenda hostage.
     
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    hmm . . .
     
  10. justtxyank

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    Simple fact is that current generation of Republican judges do not see themselves as loyal to the law even if hurts their party. They see themselves as politicians elected to use the law as a tool to carry out the Republican agenda.
     
  11. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    I figure about 10-20% of people don't let trends go. Look at the guys who had formative years in the early 1980's who still have mullets. Then you add in the true crazy who really bought in hook line and sinker, maybe another 5-10%. So we're looking at 15-30% of Trumpers who won't let it go.
     
  12. justtxyank

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    You mean Cruz will go back to trying to be the most radical Senator in America, blocking everything in the Senate (Including his own legislation) in order to get time on tv railing against liberals as a way to run for President on an ultra conservative platform all while being America's most hated senator? Back to THAT normal?
     
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    I see you are a man who had his formative years during the makeup a percentage trend ;)
     
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    Gotcha - I agree with you in theory. But a key difference between NY and FL/TX is that NY voters passed a Constitutional amendment to specifically disallow partisan gerrymandering. There's no such laws in TX or FL or most GOP states. That's the larger problem - Democratic states are the ones that generally pass anti-gerrymandering laws. A good thing if it's nationwide - a bad thing if it only affects one party.
     
  15. Xerobull

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    You have a 69% probability of being right.
     
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    I know right!
     
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    What the hell is going on in the west, count that **** already
     
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    For Warnock that tells me he really was a poor candidate (had bad talking points or his advertising sucked), because Walker was really bad.
     
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    When both parties' turnouts are sky high (as has been the case in 2020 and 2022), winning independents is the way to win these elections. If either party moderates, they have a generational opportunity to become the dominant force in politics.
     
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