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[Developing] Nancy Pelosi's husband violently beaten with hammer

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by larsv8, Oct 28, 2022.

  1. jo mama

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    which claim of mine am i unable to prove? for example, its a fact that once trump tweeted for his supporters to stop attacking the capitol then they did. they listened to him. and you honestly think january 6th would have happened if trump didnt stoke those flames for months? give me a break!

    you cant prove one iota of your claim. we are offering opinions based on the facts. youre just wrong and (intentionally) ignoring facts that you dont like.

    your opinion on trump seems to be that he is some kind of victim of forces working against him. you actually sound just like him...trump has always played the victim card.

    and ill ask again...and whats up with putting "protectors" in quotes? who are you talking about and who told them to "stand down"?
     
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  2. jiggyfly

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    No sympathy, but plenty of excuses?

    So I guess you have sympathy for Obama as well right?

     
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  3. jo mama

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    what were his accomplishments? he failed on most of his policies that he ran on. he didnt make mexico pay for his wall. he didnt eliminate the debt (he actually increased it). he didnt repeal and replace obamacare. he didnt deliver on his promised infrastructure bill. he said he would grow the economy by 4% a year. he said when he got elected he would start acting like an adult.

    trump is a failure of a human being and was a failure as president. he couldnt get key elements of his agenda passed.
     
  4. giddyup

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    There is no way to know what would have happened on JAN 6th if Trump had behaved differently. Another question is why would Trump jump in the fray to quiet the disruption down if he had spent MONTHS fomenting it? He's not much of a revolutionary then.

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    I'm not sure what claim of mine to which you refer. Which facts? Your prediction about what would have happened if something else hadn't happen?!

    Is anything untrue with the way I depicted his ascendancy? Was there no dossier? Were there no impeachments? No Mueller Report? Was Mitch McConnell a regular lunch buddy of Trump's?

    Democratic mayors in, at least, Minneapolis, Portland, and Chicago ordered police to stand down in the face or rioting to come.
     
  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Just wait two weeks. You're going to have the biggest most beautiful health care plan. Where you pay for nothing and there are never wait times to see any doctor. You're going to have the most most humonguos infrastructure plan. We're going to be building so much infrastructure you're going to get tired of winning.

    Mexico is going to pay for it all!
     
  6. giddyup

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    Did you miss this: "Nevertheless, he over-reached in challenging the election. That's his bombastic personality."

    And this: "He tarnished his legacy of accomplishment as a president. We were better off then."

    The only thing debatable in the things I cited is "media bias" but i think even that has been proven by some. Everything else is a matter of record.
     
  7. giddyup

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    We'd have fewer handwringers if Trump had just conceded.

    Three times since 2000, the Democrats have challenged the election outcome. Obviously, none went as far as this one did. Lots of pent-up anger.
     
  8. rocketsjudoka

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    Trump would've still lost but Ashli Babbit would be alive, a few Capitol LEO who took their lives over Jan. 6 would still be alive, and many Capitol LEO wouldn't be injured and still dealing with injuries to this day. 100's of Trump supporters wouldn't be in or on their way to jail.
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    That's not true in Minneapolis. Jacob Frey made some bad tactical mistakes particularly pulling back from the 3rd Precinct but he didn't order MPD to stand down. I know this first hand because I was there when the 3rd Precinct fell and treated people with rubber bullet and tear gas injuries.
     
  9. giddyup

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    Who cares about campaign promises? Where were we at then and where are we at now?
     
  10. giddyup

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    Ashli could have stayed home.

    I'm not sure how pulling back is different from standing down. Frey: "The third precinct. It became clear that there were imminent threats to both officers and public. And the danger became necessary. And I made the decision to evacuate the third precinct."
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    It was a strategic retreat. That's not the same as standing down and they were still firing rubber rounds and tear gas as they were retreating.
     
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    Did you forget you said this?

    Forces were working against him before he even took office.

    That's what I was responding too, which you ignored.

    No media bias is not the only thing debatable.
     
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    How many times have Democrats (or Republicans prior to 2020) failed to concede in a timely manner? How many Democrats 2 years later continued to claim an election was stolen? As a matter of fact, when has any Democrat or Republican claimed an election was stolen prior to Trump?
     
  14. giddyup

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    The fake dossier was funded before the election.

    Nancy Pelosi was talking impeachment before he had been sworn in.

    I ignored the comment because it was ignorant. You seem to only retain in your mind the events that suit your narrative.
     
  15. giddyup

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    Not sure why you keep returning to this. I wish Trump how bowed out more gracefully but I understand his frustration. However, I have no desire to draw and quarter him in Times Square.

    Here's Hillary THREE years later in 2019: Hillary Clinton Says Election Was ‘Stolen’ From Her (dailysignal.com)
     
  16. jiggyfly

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    The comment was ignorant?

    Mitch was plotting to get rid of Obama before he was sworn in yet you choose to ignore that?

    Oh the irony.
     
  17. giddyup

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    Evidence?

    McConnell impeded Obama's agenda and is on record as intending him to be a one-term president but isn't that the norm in a two party system?

    Threatening impeachment before being sworn in vs confounding re-election are two very different things. The latter is pretty normal.

    I can't think of a party who ever wanted to get the rival president re-elected for a second term. Can you?
     
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    Interesting, thanks @tinman. Good video.

    But why did the DoJ lie in its report? People will naturally wonder: Is that the only inaccuracy or are there more?

    Like they say in the video, it all doesn't change the fact that Mr. Pelosi was attacked. Hopefully he is recovering well.

    Important to note that neither of the authorities has confirmed a clear motive of the attacker yet. Despite that, leftists are desperate to establish the narrative that the attacker was "right wing" (instead of what seems more likely, influenced by a variety of weird conspiracy theories).
     
  20. tinman

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    These Chappelle show haters have more conspiracy theories than Kanye ever did
    Body cam don’t lie
     

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