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The end of Democracy

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Sep 10, 2019.

  1. deb4rockets

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    You know damn well when I said you got your facts wrong is was because the Republican party has voted No to every bill proposed to address gun violence, domestic terrorism, domestic violence, capping insulin prices, reducing the prices of prescription drugs, price gouging, affordable healthcare, Veterans, and on and on and on. They don't give a damn about anyone but those greedy corporate billionaires, the Oil barons, the NRA, gun distributers, gun and gun manufacturers line their pockets. Hell, they don't even speak out against right wing hate groups, because they know those types feed off their bigotry, racism, ANTI-Gay bills, and White Nationalist views. Then you have those rednecks and dumbasses actually believing that the GOP cares about them. Sad too, because a lot of those fools can't even afford healthcare, social services, mental health care, prescription drugs, college, a home, or flood insurance.

    Voting Republican isn't gonna change that. The sad part is that Republicans could win because people believe their lies and propaganda without researching facts. The GOP voted against everything to address inflation. They wanted people to suffer so they could blame Biden. It's a sick game, and those fools believe their lies. Do they think that they are going to get better vacation pay, paternal leave, health benefits, or more vacation time like most countries if the GOP takes power? Do they believe they are gonna get all their guns taken away? SMH. Yeah, right Now I agree on assault weapons bans and stricter gun laws. Nothing wrong with that. Do they think the GOP will enact stricter environmental regulations or penalties for the Chemical plants spewing toxins in the air and water around Houston or anywhere else that is making people ill?

    it was up to Republicans minimum wage would stay the same for 12 years,even with inflation. Oh wait, it actually has in Texas. How sick is that? Those politicians pay more for a drink at lunch than they want to pay someone for an hour of work they wouldn't be caught dead doing. Disgusting. Labor laws won't get better either. They can work you 12 days with a day off already in Texas legally. The billionaire tax cuts they love to impose will help the select few, and the rest will suffer even more in the long run. Companies skirt around paying benefits by cutting hours or hiring contractors. It's terrible. Screw their greedy, selfish agendas, gay hate, bigotry, QKook logic, lies, and propaganda.
     
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  2. dobro1229

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  3. Amiga

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    Democracy is very important to me. I feel that if Republican wins (in areas where election laws and processes are handled - most of these are at the local levels), American democracy is at a high risk of ending. If Republicans do take those seats, I hope I'm very wrong. This is why I'm now a one-issue voter (never have been before).
     
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    And moderate liberals are perplexed why leftists exist.

    And no, this isn't going to sway rational leftists to not vote for the Democratic party these upcoming election cycles.


    You're voting either for hypocrites or fascists and I'll much rather have hypocrites.
     
  6. basso

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    Hyperbolists 4 Hypocrites has quite a ring to it.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    I'm sure you have a clear understanding of fascism and what it looks like.
     
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    I do! and it's nowhere in America today, except perhaps among the Antifa.
     
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  9. fchowd0311

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    Antifa wants to protect the nation's traditional values and ethnic and religious culture at all costs at the expense of individual liberty and democratic values?

    That's very weird.


    An example of fascism expressed at its core is that chode you know that wants to send people to prison for burning American flags. I know plenty of them. Plenty of happy fascists running around in America.
     
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  10. Amiga

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    Deserve its own thread (remove GG from it though, he's 100% bias). None of this matter much if there isn't democracy going forward though.

    Link to the NYT OP piece: Opinion | Liberal Hypocrisy Is Fueling Inequality - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

    A "Time Pick" comment:

    The piece makes some valid eye opening points, but it also cherry picks egregious examples to drive a thesis that blue states are essentially slackavist hypocritical strongholds. It also reduces national and state politics into an oversimplified binary model where majority blue states are universally progressive and majority red states are conservative when the reality is more nuanced. Twenty-five percent of Palo Alto votes Republican and plenty of others bought houses there because they liked their neighborhood, which is to say changing local zoning can be a long arduous process. Washington State does not have a state income tax, but does have relatively high sales taxes which are certainly regressive. But at least acknowledge that completely restructuring how state government is funded in Washington is politically impossible. Change is hard and it often comes slowly, especially when it happens at the expense of all too human traits like greed and self interest.
     
  11. Bandwagoner

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    Democrats pushing this is a sure fire loser. The fact is they are scared of democracy.

    Democracy is about to make them unemployed.
     
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  12. Amiga

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    Antifa, by definition, is "anti-fascist"
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    More by name. Not definition.
     
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    What do you think the Republican Party would have been running on if Trump won in 2020, Antifa stormed the capital, Biden put pressure on swing state officials to "find the votes", the Democrats had a scheme to send in fake electors.... and.... Antifa members, those who publicly support them, and Biden endorsed candidates were the Democrats running against the Republicans in power????

    Do you actually think Republicans would have NOTHING to warn about with that being on the ballot?

    You try to come off as the smartest guy in the room, but treating everyone else like they are idiots doesn't necessarily mean that you come off as smart as you think you do.

    It would be malpractice for the Democratic party to not make Democracy part of the message. It's all three legs of the stool that these "Kitchen Table Issues" sit on in the end.
     
  15. Amiga

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    By name, by definition, by history.

    Antifa (Germany) - Wikipedia
    Antifa is a political movement in Germany composed of multiple far-left, autonomous, militant groups and individuals who describe themselves as anti-fascist. According to the German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution and the Federal Agency for Civic Education, the use of the epithet fascist against opponents and the view of capitalism as a form of fascism are central to the movement

    Antifa (United States) - Wikipedia
    Antifa (/ænˈtiːfə, ˈænti(ˌ)fə/) is a left-wing anti-fascist and anti-racist political movement in the United States. It consists of a highly decentralized array of autonomous groups that use both nonviolent direct action and violence to achieve their aims.
     
  16. Amiga

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    He might be right that it's a losing issue. But the statement of Dem being scared of democracy is hilarious. Dem isn't the party that reacts to 2020 election loss by enacting and pushing for laws attacking voter rights. So freaking backward.
     
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    Just curious. What makes something authoritarian but not fascist?
     
  18. dobro1229

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    Right and we have very recent history to prove that wrong with Al Gore who did maybe the most humble thing imaginable in that scenario.... maybe to the detriment of the world with the impact of W Bush for 2 terms, but he did it because above all he wanted to prove that he believed in upholding Democracy.

    Do we also think it was easy for Hillary to call Trump on election night in 16? She won by 3 million votes in the popular vote, and the margins were ultra slim in some of the key states. She could have easily delayed concession for a week to investigate, and litigate.

    The notion is asinine, and is an another example of one of these bros that thinks he's the smartest guy in the room easily being proven a jacka$$ by the facts.

    ....

    But yes he could be right that American swing voters simply don't care about Democracy. That would ultimately be a referendum on the intellect of American swing voters though because all evidence proves that it is very very rare to have a growing economy under the instability of autocratic rule. Name me 5 autocracies with booming economies... Name me 2... China... maybe... Do you think China has a glorious economy for it's people to thrive under and live fulfilled lives??

    So yeah... maybe swing voters don't care today, but there's no evidence to suggest they wouldn't be shooting themselves in the foot if it's really economic issues they truly care about.
     
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    I think antifa is just an extremist clandestine far left group that is know for violence and destruction of property. There are no large facist organizations for them to fight. I feel the name is BS.
     
  20. Bandwagoner

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    Dems are very scared of democracy. They are trying to push the fear button as large as possible for this election. No results of this election will end the republic. The rhetoric is insane.
     

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