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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. Reeko

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    20, 6, and 5 on 40/36/81 splits and 51% TS

    17 shots a game

    5.1 assists to 3.5 turnovers

    9th in time of possession…30th in potential assists
     
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    Yeah tbh, Jalen has the worst tunnel vision on the team
     
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    Some of us correctly predicted those numbers. And some thought this is the path to greatness :)

    PS: maj21 here had agreed that this should be done with efficiency, it is just a funny coincidence that he hit the exact numbers. But a lot other kpj stans like apache are still rubbing his 5 assists as proof of playmaking, which at this point is only laughable. Well it was always laughable, but it is much more obvious now.
     
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    5.5% below league average efficiency. A career worst. Maybe, just maybe, those of us concerned with his ability to be an efficient, volume scorer knew what we were talking about.
     
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    I’m happy with his numbers. I’m pissed about his efficiency and turnovers, which cancels his stat line out
     
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    it doesn't really cancel it out, it makes it more of a negative. A guy averaging 10 ppg on horrible efficiency won't be as damaging as a guy averaging 20 on horrible efficiency. Still time to turn it around though but a 4th season of being THIS bad would be a tough pill to swallow
     
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    He’s had some games on decent efficiency and low turnovers, and some bad ones. So I feel like he helps us and hurts us. Overall I think we’re better with him than without, with this roster imo
     
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    Bro enough, we are all bad. Unless Segun can single handedly lead us to wins offensively(he cannot) or like dramatically change his defense overnight, everyone needs to chill. We dont have the talent on this team right now to win, that's just a fact.

    We are the youngest team in the league.
     
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    did you get the same feeling when over the summer there were 100 plus pages of kpj ranting on how he should be extended immediately and how he will be an all star? Or do you get the feeling only when someone who supports Sengun says something?

    plus I just mentioned a coincidence, did not say anything about Sengun and pointed to the delusions of a kpj Stan. It has nothing to do with Sengun.

    while I agree a dramatic change will not come overnight, I believe that if you change kpj and/or Silas there will be immediate visible improvement.
     
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    Im just tired of it dude. Most people here dont like anyone on our team besides Sengun. I like him a lot, but god damn yall dont shut up about it. If KPJ is not good this year, its whatever, he wont be the long term point guard. But acting like he's the only reason we are losing and Sengun is completely perfect(he's far from it) is annoying).

    No you wont. Lol look at the roster. No one else can play point guard.

    Why is that? Do you think the roster is going to get better? Because our roster isnt that good. Sengun can't see the floor as much as you want him to because he physically cannot stay on the floor, plus his defense is still a massive problem for the position he plays.
     
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    What I got from watching the guard play is sad.

    Spacing problem usually comes from not having enough outside shooters. We actually have quite a few shooters. Gordon, Jabari, Green, KPJ, and even Martin and Mathews are all good catch and shoot guys. But our spacing is so bad. When they drive inside, there's usually a crowd there. Why? Because they can't execute a kick out play. You drive, draw the defenders and kick out to the open shooter. They draw the defenders alright. But they seldom see the outside shooters. So the defense don't even bother to stick to the shooters. They just pack it in, wait for them to drive and hit head on to the crowd.
     
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  13. LeDakota

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    His role model was J Craw so he should be used as a 6th man like J Craw.
     
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    I am not acting like kpj is the only reason and Sengun is great. Kpj, Jabari and green has been really bad recently. Sengun has been good but it can go vice versa. But the lack of playmaking is an issue that needs to be addressed because it effects the whole team. It is not the same as green, Sengun or bari playing bad. When there is no playmaking, you can’t build anything.
     
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  15. HP3

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    There is no one else on this team that can do it.

    Sengun can't do it either because his body literally cannot handle that kind of usage, so we are stuck with what we've got.

    Also.....we want Wembaya lol.
     
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    lol, we have made a lot of progress. People just don't have patience for players to turn in to real men.

    We had no draft assets 3 years ago, we were stuck after the Westbrook trade. People are just looking for quick fixes and not prepared to stick out a rebuild. They want our young players to be fully 5 year experienced vets already in their prime.
     
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  17. DaDakota

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    We have made progress, but we still don't have a DUDE yet, or someone that is definitely going to be THE DUDE......maybe one of the developing kids will become the DUDE, but none of them are like standouts like Zion, or Ja, or Banchero etc.....we seem to have a bunch of next tier down players.

    DD
     
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  18. NewAge

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    this. exactly.
    What bothers me a bit is that KPJ and Green act like this is their team and they are the franchise cornerstone. This should be cut off..
    We have a bunch of talented but not great youngsters. We just have to hope that somebody takes the leap.
    We don’t have the Ja, Luka, etc. type that you know from the get-go, "this is IT". These two create toxic dynamics with their demeanor.
     
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    Frankly, I don't see this much from Jalen Green. Seems like a great kid and a great worker.

    KPJ has matured by leaps and bounds over the last 6 months, too.
     
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    We made none, we are still worst in the league and none of the players play up to their potential or moved towards it. We already had two top3 picks you really think we would be this bad with lets say mobley and banchero? Draft assets are nothing if you cant translate them to a good play
     
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