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The state of the republican party

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  1. deb4rockets

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    This guy's a real piece of work. He voted not to impeach Trump twice. He doesn't think a coup planner, insurrectionist and traitor to Democracy should be impeached. He stands by his party, no matter what spouts out his dirty mouth.

     
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    Republicans Are Doubling Down on Trumpism. It’s Going to Work.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/06/opinion/politics/republican-midterms.html?smid=url-share

    excerpt:

    If Republicans have many things going for them in next week’s elections — an economy that’s like a millstone around Democrats’ necks, fear in the electorate about crime and a chaotic immigration system, President Biden’s low approval ratings — they are also taking what appear to be some enormous risks: having candidates on the ballot who many observers see as too inexperienced, extreme or scandal-burdened to win in November.

    But they forget that Republicans already took an enormous risk, in 2016, by nominating Donald Trump for president. And not only did they avoid ballot-box suicide to win the election, but it was the beginning of a renaissance for the Republican Party. Mr. Trump’s approach, gleeful culture war combativeness atop core conservative principles, delivered both short-term policy wins and long-sought victories for his party’s base, like tax cuts, a long procession of conservative federal judges, a Supreme Court majority that overturned Roe v. Wade, the American Embassy moved to Jerusalem. He also pleased the Republican right by giving the party a new focus on immigration and shifting its foreign policy away from wars and nation-building in the Middle East.

    The Republican Party’s strategy in 2022 has been to double down on the Trump approach. Its candidates for the U.S. Senate in Pennsylvania and Georgia, Herschel Walker and Mehmet Oz, are celebrities without political experience, as is Kari Lake, a former Phoenix area news anchor who is now the Republican nominee for governor of Arizona.

    more at the link
     
  4. adoo

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    OT, rather than merely cut n paste, think

    the slight-of-hand op ed that you had referenced pretends that (these GOP ballot box suicides)
    • the blue wave, w the Dems gaining control of the House, in 2018
    • the incumbent POTUS lost re-election by the largest margin in US history
    • Dems won both US Senate seats in Deep Red Georgia
    • etc.
    didn't happen​
     
  5. Amiga

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    He did vote against the GOP objection to the 2020 election result.

    He's not running for re-election in 2024 and is free to say what other Republicans can't say. They are simply playing the game to win at the cost of the truth and greed for power. Some of them are deluding themselves by thinking they can control the MAGA wave.
     
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  6. Amiga

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    Doubling down on MAGA. LOL, like they have another option. They slept with the devil and now can't get out of that bed.
     
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    He said he isn't running for Senate in 2024. He never said he isn't running for re-election to the House
     
  8. Amiga

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    I stand corrected. More credit to him then for speaking to the truth.
     
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  9. deb4rockets

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    He still didn't vote to impeach. I don't respect Veterans who sell their soul to a traitor, just because they become political yes men.
     
  10. CCorn

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    He can say he’s not running for senate, but if the **** hits the fan he will take advantage of it. “I didn’t want to run, but I believe in the Republican Party and the people of Texas” yada yada
     
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    it is identical to the GOP's ObamaCare fix
     
  13. Phillyrocket

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    And their infrastructure plan.

    The only consistent GOP platform I’ve ever seen is cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations while borrowing money to increase defense spending.

    Sometimes they get creative and find new ways to enrich Corporate America like the Medicare Part D Act of 2003 not having cost caps or negotiated pricing.
     
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    Even for the NYT opinion page, this is pretty freaking stupid. There is no evidence whatsoever that "doubling down on Trump" has worked in any election since 2016, and in 2016 Trump still lost the popular vote for 3 million so it's not like that was any sort of referendum on the popularity of Trumpism.

    Ever since 2016, Trump has been an election loser. Yes it juices turnout with the hardcore base, and registers Nazi types who don't normally vote to actually go vote, but it also juices turnout on the other side too.

    Are the Republicans going to win the House, and maybe the Senate... possibly.

    However there is no excuse for them to not easily take both in a normal election, and the risk that they are taking by going full blown fascist, running against Democracy itself, running on taking away social security, having no policies to actually help inflation other than more tax cuts which actually make inflation worse, and running to take away a women's right at the federal level.... is a risk that could actually make them lose an election they should easily win.

    If Trump was impeached, and banned from running in 2024, this would be a normal mid term where the Dems would have very little to run on other than maybe protecting abortion, and the candidates would be more like Younkin, or Mitt Romney, and the suburban white voters would LOVE to flip back to that type of Republican. It would be a true Red Wave.

    Doubling down on Trump, by first not voting to impeach when he led a mob on January 6 to literally overturn Democracy was the big act of cowardice which might cost the Republicans in 2022, and in 2024. Two elections they should have won easily against the Democrats. Now it's anyone's bet so we'll just see how many people care about Democracy or don't.
     
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    It's coming in two weeks.
     
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    Homeland Security Admits It Tried to Manufacture Fake Terrorists for Trump
    A new Homeland Security report details orders to connect protesters arrested in Portland to one another in service of the Trump's imaginary antifa plot.

    https://gizmodo.com/donald-trump-homeland-security-report-antifa-portland-1849718673

    I guess it's like how Trump and his clones tried blaming the Capitol insurrection on Antifa as well, until they were called out with the facts. Lying Pigs.
     
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    My beautiful Ivanka! Can you blame her. Kimberly looking like she is Lillith about to make a sacrifice.

     
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  18. rocketsjudoka

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    I wonder if Dennis McCarthy is going to write a followup to this.
     
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  19. No Worries

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    Sen. Josh Hawley getting his criming on ...

     
  20. CCorn

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    I see a future senator.

     

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