So in your world losing is the only way to move up? If you recall under DM we never tanked and consistently moved up via wise player decisions, trades and high quality planning. But really if you think 15 teams should be fighting for last place every year so they can get better via losing then we need to be fans of another sport because the entire experience is just an exercise in pure misery. The thought process you are promoting is just.. sad. And btw finish in the bottom half you still have a shot at top picks and even the #1. Your thoughts is just lose a little more and pick higher! wtf..
After they lost Yao, they were consistently mediocre. They were stuck in the .500 treadmill for three years before they pulled off the Harden trade. Morey never drafted a true difference maker. His best picks were Chandler Parsons and Clint Capela. One was the 25th pick and the other was 38th. It took some good scouting, but also a lot of luck that they were available at those spots. The highest pick Morey ever had was #12, and after Harden, it was #18. Morey inherited a contender with a .650 winning percentage and was tasked with keeping it on course. Stone was handed a rebuild, so you can't really compare what Stone is doin with what Morey was doing. Tanking isn't the only way to rebuild, but while it's within grasp, you might as well go for it. It's not like they are sitting on mountains of cash and not spending it in favor of tanking. Their hands have been tied on that front. I think this team will improve pretty quickly once they have the opportunity to add free agents.
Can’t just put it on Silas and KPJ. Jabari can’t shoot nor defend well, Jalen isn’t a Superstar like people like to think he is, Sengun can’t defend, KPJ just can’t put it together and looks awful, Silas just sucks. This team does not have a franchise player!! Hopefully we get Wemby and a big time free agent. We need big time players on this team, period.
That was literally the only team to ever do that (at least that wasn't in LA, NY or Miami). And how did that work out for us? I don't recall us hoisting the trophy. You know when we did hoist the trophy? After we tanked for Hakeem.
Boston was fortunate enough to make the best trade in league history with the Nets.. they didn't need to tank cuz the Nets tanked for them...
It's funny that you personally are like, the ONLY person that cant recognise what good defense looks like, but you post about it so often it's starting to seem otherwise.
The nets might be tanking for us also we just don't know yet. Until KD leaves they always have a shot at playoffs.
Agreed. With the Westbrook trade, bottoming out was the best option to acquire high end talent and still have assets to build around them. Even if we were to acquire a star we didn't have any assets to build around them. I firmly believe there will be a complete shift in the way things are done here in Houston after the 2023 draft (ex: consolidate mismatch pieces for fitting pieces, wins matter more, etc). I've been disappointed in how Silas has been running the offense, but we also aren't more than 50% rebuilt at our core. Part of it is youth, part of it is having a very incomplete roster without incentive to speed up its completion, and the part that is mostly in Silas control: team alignment and quick decision making. Our rebuild really started at the beginning of last season. The Harden trade represented the tear down and the Green pick represented the beginning of the rebuild. Some fans here are mostly impatient and even worse, they set themselves up with wild expectations. No one, and I mean even the most pro tank people, enjoy watching a disaster of a losing team. But, we had a 3 year plan to bottom out and we are executing that plan. Even if we do not land Wemby or Scoot we'll have 3 top 6 picks and a few players who are out performing their draft position (Sengun/Eason). We are playing the odds that a few of them will ultimately end up being integral pieces to either a major trade or as core pieces to our path back to contention. We'll have the Nets picks, we'll move on from the Westbrook trade, and we're in a great position to have cap flexibility (upcoming free agents sucks, so not referring to this off season).
All those players have higher upsides and are more useful players than what we see here. That 100% is on Silas. I agree that the roster isn’t a real NBA roster and is just “assets” - that’s on Stone for sure and I agree we gotta make some moves to turn this into a functional NBA roster. …but I mean Silas has decent players and isn’t even making an attempt to think about how to maximize their growth and development because he is so myopically focused on making his Doncic/Harden system work(without the right personnel). Jabari was highly successful in college running off of ball screens- he got more than half his points running off screen..and so far he has done that 3 times TOTAL this year(as of a few games back) because Silas would prefer he stand in the corner and wait for a pass that either isn’t coming or that comes late or isnt thrown very well. No wonder he looks like a different player in the NBA. Silas saying - I know you are lotto pick playing this way, but I need you to completely change how you play to fit into the only style I know how to coach is exactly why KPJ is also causing problems because everyone knows he isn’t a playmaker like Harden/Doncic yet that’s the only way Silas’ system will work.
Milwaukee was one of the worst franchises in the league for decades. They didn't "tank" the year they got Giannis, but they only won 31 games that year. And that was only one of like 4-5 years that decade that they only won 30 games or less. Their best seasons in that decade were right at like 42 wins. If you'd rather be completely mediocre for an entire decades and bank on stumbling into a generational talent with the 15th pick, that's cool I guess. But there have been a whole lot more top 5 picks to lead their teams to championships than mid-first rounders. And Boston was garbage for years after Larry Bird. Do you remember the famous "Larry isn't walking through that door" speech? It's true they didn't tank the year they got Tatum, but after the season they traded Pierce and Garnett for the picks that became Tatum and Brown they only won 25 games. They were back to 40 by the next season, but they still were awful for a year. Oh, and Boston still hasn't won a championship with that roster either. Perhaps if they had tanked for a few years they'd have had the talent to get it done.
Look, here's the plan. Obviously we get the #1 pick and draft Wemby, dats a no brainer. Ask Harden if he would come back if we trade for Durant, obviously yes. Trade Gordon / KPJ / and the Nets picks for Durant Harden / Christopher Green / Tate Durant / Eason Jabari / Sengun Wemby / Garuba Bring in whatever coach the fanbase feels like scapegoating next. How about Dantoni? Tilman sells the team. Profit.
I’m so glad we have our pick this year and that Rafel didn’t trade it. We are gonna need it. And we are gonna need the Milwaukee pick too. We have a long way to go in our rebuild.
Silas is terrible. KPJ is not a point guard. The others are just lost because they don't have a system to play, nor a point guard to facilitate for them. So yeah, the team might suck as a whole, but back in a not so long time ago, a guy named DJ FREAKING AGUSTIN was subbed in and suddenly the team started moving the ball and being better collective. Then Silas put back KPJ, and if he was scoring a LOT we would win. But the majority of the time we would lose. Our coach is too dumb and soft to make the necessary adjustments - in plays and putting a leash in the kids. "Oh, you will destroy the young guys confidence, they need to learn...". **** it. What they REALLY need to know is that NOBODY is above the team, and they won't get away with childish behavior like leaving the team in the middle of a game, or constantly forcing hero ball in clutch time. Meanwhile JG seems more worried about his Instagram account than this team success. A decent coach would slap the boy's phone from his hand.
