and this is almost his rookie season... i dont count 6 minutes, or 4 x 3 minutes a night that he did most of the last year, as playing experience....on contrary... he played perhaps only dozen of 30plus minutes games last year...so he has only 10-20 real nba games under his belt...
Sengun is a good player, he had a great game last night BUT where are we going??? We're still in the same place. I remember last yr C. Wood having similar stat lines and these same fans would say, those are EMPTY STATS, HE DIDN'T PLAY DEFENSE....we still lost. ISN'T THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT? Don't take it from me, go back and look at what Silas said after he applauded Sengun on the offensive end, he said, "yeah but the DEFENSE still needs to be addressed". Have my opinion changed because of last night, no? I still think he is HIGHLY skilled and a great passer but as we all saw, when 7'2" Moses "FREAKING" Brown came into the game it changed. In under 15 min, he had 13 pts and 7 rebounds! Now, imagine if he were on the Rockets? Even as a backup to Sengun, I could live with that but the Rockets, notice I said "THE ROCKETS", are not far off. They just need someone in the paint who can man the paint both offensively and DEFENSIVELY.
There isn’t a center in the league that is fixing this defense. Defense isn’t played by one position, that’s an antiquated way of thinking. The entire starting unit is woefully bad defensively. KPJ has the 3rd highest points against in isolation in the league. Jabari has the 10th highest. Eason and KJ who have better metrics are among the worst in pick and roll defense When Alp was coming off the bench, Eason, KJ and Alp had the best defensive metrics on the team. Bottom line is one player isn’t to blame, one player isn’t fixing this and your outdated way of thinking a defensive center is going to fix the defense is just wrong. Ask Utah when they had Gobert about that.
Wemby would instantaneously fix this defense. Chet might have had more impact too. Teammates ability on defense will also impact the overall "look" its up to Silas to find those lineups that man up when needed and light up the scoring the same way in those moments. He's just out there smiling and clapping. If the tank job isnt evident by now not sure what else we need to confirm it.
I think Wemby (and Chet) would help a ton. But if guards are getting blown by nonstop Wemby will be in foul trouble. Even as good as those two are, there has to be more than just one eraser. Hell, just a couple that put in effort on rotating would help.
And it would be a dream come true to get Wemby. The upgraded version of Chet who I thought is the perfect fit with Green and Alp. Seeing quite a few teams start to go back to multiple bigs, I think we’re going to see a pendulum swing soon
Tari fits that bill. Jabari should be the same. Not sure how often these guys play together, but if defense is needed in certain moments it would be nice to see the best defenders out there. Guards have been playing as tough as possible IMO, maybe not as effective as all of us want, but Jalen started out the year super tough on defense, He's in a slump, but has shown to have the tenacity there. KPJ becomes aloof too much. Overthinking everything. He should just chill and let the game unfold naturally without forcing.
If you are comparing Sengun to Wood, there’s really not much anyone can say to you to change your opinion on Sengun. Defensively, although he’s not a great defender, I still consider him at least above average on that end. Defense often is about effort. Sengun is always hustling and trying hard to challenge the shots whenever possible. It often gets him in foul trouble as a result. But that should be easily fixable given time.Whereas Wood would just hover around perimeter and want no business banging down low. Offensively, Wood is just a black hole. Once he gets the ball, rest of the team might as well just run back. It’s either a shot attempt or a turnover. Not much else. Dude wouldn’t even pass the ball on fast breaks for crying out loud.Sengun on the other hand can orchestrate the offense. Many are advocating Sengun be the primary facilitator. That should tell you the difference. Only thing Wood does better is the 3pt shooting. I give him that. But Sengun is young. His mechanism looks fine. He seems to have improved his FT shooting. Given time, I don’t see why he can’t improve his 3PT shooting. If he can just become an average shooter, I’d take him over Wood on offense any day of the week. And if he becomes a great shooter? Watch out.
U wonder why some sengun fans get triggered. 20 year old player ain't nothing like c wood. Sengun is actually trying on center, he's contesting rebounds, playing defense to a certain success and screening for his teammates. Wood refuses to do any of that.
And although he did and you all refute Wood was trying, it still gave the same results , a loss! And how do we know Wood wasn't trying, if he gave 20 and 9 on a regular in HIS mind he was giving effort. No one can deny that when Moses Brown came into the game last night, the whole fibe changed and that's what I look at. We are still too small, too guard oriented. Our guards are nice but they are not there yet and to rely on them game in and game out, along with being small in the paint does not equate to winning basketball.
WTF? What kind of logic is this? By your logic, why don’t we trade Green/KPJ and keep John Wall? Because the end result probably won’t be any different -> a loss! This is getting ridiculous. I’m done wasting time in this thread.
Yea I can't take you seriously if u Stan for c wood of all folks. Comparing a 7 year vet to a 2 year. C wood does not play defense nor does he want to play center. He does not screen for his teammates, always does that fake screen. He does not box out nor does he contest rebounds. We had a 20 year old take a dump on a 7 year vet and scored 26 pts. That's potential. If u think sengun performance was the same as wood, I can see y sengun only fans get triggered
Guys. You all are going overboard with this. This is hilarious. It's about comparing the numbers. Sengun had a double double but it resulted in another loss, same as when C. Wood would have double doubles. It's not about comparing the players. To me Wood and Sengun are different; Wood is a perimeter player but coaches keep playing him at center because of height. Sengun is interior plain and simple. However both are able to put up similar NUMBERS due to their styles but they both have defensive weaknesses. To me, it is unlikely Sengun is going to grow another 3 inches, just like Wood wasn't going to gain another 20 or 30lbs at this stage in his career, so what do we do against the bigger centers? We saw how effective Moses Brown was last night in limited minutes, so what do we do?
I'm hoping that's the case. The TEAM had a good game last night; Sengun in the paint, KPJ driving and dishing, Jalen hitting his jumpers, the bench mob hustling.... it was a great TEAM effort.
I'd take Moses everyday of the week and twice on Sundays. Height effects the game more so on both ends of the court. A shot true blocker clogs the paint and stops teams from driving and is a lob threat over the top on offense.
Good luck with your 3rd string c than buddy.you have moses at home his name is bruno.btw you know how to entertain posters here.
This. Wood was awful on both sides of the ball. Like taller Kevin Martin. Sengun is not *that* bad defensively. And if he is, there are other players on this team who are just as bad. Rockets were getting hit with the overhead roll lob and then eventually Sengun caught on and intercepted it. As it stands at this moment, Sengun is the most important player on the team. If you think Wood and Sengun are the same....not sure what to say to that.
