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KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DasouthDakota, Oct 25, 2022.

  1. AlperenSengun

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    I have played enough that if you move all the time and never get the ball to see 'the guy who thinks he is the star of the team' dribble out the ball to take a bad shot, you stop moving at some point, especially this act is supported by the coach. Everything on the court are evidence to the problem more of kpj isoing and not looking for the open man, and occasionally not having the skills to make the correct pass, and much less of the other players not moving and presenting.

    As usual when you can't refute what people say, you resort to bullying. The comment you posted on the video is wrong on so many levels, which is only possible when your only purpose is to dictate a narrative about your player.
     
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    The nuances of Naturalism and Taoism.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    It is not wrong at all, Sengun stops at the FT line is where he should be until Green turns the ball back out top, and then Sengun can go post...you can't go 2 feet away from your teamate and expect a pass.



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    "You can lead a horse to water....."

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  6. AlperenSengun

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    Sengun stopped, green could not beat his man(unlike you claimed it to happen after sengun got there). As Sengun posts-up, green could move to drag his defender with him for a perfect post-up opportunity for Sengun, but he did not, which is okay.

    Then the ball went to KPJ, he waived off Sengun to take a bad 3pt shot, which is the part you fail to address for 10 posts.

    And Take your effing condescending tone and gtfo. Let's see you post in your second language on a sports forum, before putting subtitles to a video to condescend me.
     
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  7. LeDakota

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    Sounds like 80% of the NBA
    I thought Silas was an offensive Guru responsible for Luka being Luka

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  9. LeDakota

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    you must be paid by KPJ or something like that cause trying to defend him with bullshit arguments makes it very obvious. Your ad hominem attacks doesn’t even bother me. Obviously you don’t know anything about basketball.
    Nobody ignores importance of ANY system under a competent head coach. What the heck are you talking about? KPJ holds responsibility as well for this mess because offense starts from him and ends up with him. He doesn’t even try to involve his teammates as a PG. Tons of examples are already out there him playing extremely selfish. If you weren’t a stubborn stan of KPJ, you could face with facts instead of pushing your idiotic narrative about him.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Ok, yes, he waved him off, that is fine, KPJ had a mismatch too, they both had mismatches....I don't mind KPJ taking that shot there it was an open 3 and 3>2.......

    You Sengunastans are just pissed at one play where he waved him off and trying to create a banner "SEE LOOKIE HERE" moment....when it is just not well thought out beyond a very rudimentary BBall understanding.

    I don't mind that wave off, I don't think KPJ is doing a good job of playing to Alp's strengths though, he needs to get him some post ups and then cut off of them.

    I do think that they are our 2 best options to play through and all we are seeing is growing pains.


    AND YES.....OUR COACH IS FLIPPING HORRIBLE.

    Obviously not, give the keys to Lionel Hollins ASAP....

    While KPJ bares some responsibility he is doing 100% of what the coach wants him to do.....

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  11. LeDakota

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    Lol KPJ’s BBIQ is super low needing guidance all the time.
     
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    Maybe Silas is trying to make KPJ into Luka. With a guy like Luka (or Harden for that matter), you don't really need plays. You just give him the ball. Let him break down the defense. The other guys just wait to take an open shot if the ball is passed to them.

    Maybe that's why Silas thinks KPJ should keep the ball MORE.
     
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  13. LeDakota

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    Doncic is a very special breed. Sharing his name in the same sentence with KPJ is an insult. No matter what, KPJ can’t even be quarter of Doncic. Only Silas would give that type of freedom to KPJ for playing like him. Pretty much explains how incompetent Silas is.
     
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    The problem is that Sengun and his fans want him to have the ball every single possession. They say KPJ is selfish, which is insane. If you listen to Sengun’s interviews, he’s always saying “it’s my game” sounds pretty selfish to me. Wanting to play his way instead of the team’s way. What if KPJ said that, meaning he only wants to iso bc it’s his game…
     
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    That's such a sht accusation. I consider myself a sengun fan. Putting sengun first is saying he should b the primary option to score and whatnot, while wanting the offense run through him isn't the same sht. The offense should be run through him, sengun isn't the primary scorer.

    Sengun has shown to b the better passer and one with better court vision. The moment any of us suggest sengun logically should b the one to control offense, kpj stans get triggered and say the dumbest things to make sengun look bad.

    Kpj stans should look themselves in the mirror if they think only sengun fans are the ones that are out of line.

    Anyone that suggests kpj b moved to the bench and be used as a sixth man insults and sht starts flying. Pffft and u act like kpj only fans put team first, get that sht out of here.

    Kpj fans always likes to take a sht on all the other players green, Smith and sengun to prop up the importance of kpj to the team.
     
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  16. DaDakota

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    We know, we know.

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  17. Verbal Christ

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    FIBA casuals crying for NBA post ups in 2022! Is this real life?

    I guess thats what happens when Kenyon Martin Jr is a better PNR roll man than the starting center. KJ can actually handle the bounce pass and dump off without fumbling it away. Team has to change its entire philosophy so that the "star" can get his forced post touches for those game changing baby hooks. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  18. DatRocketFan

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    Any fool that likes this fake a$$ quote is as extremist as the fools calling out the behavior of the sengun only fan.

    Instead acknowledging your own bias and how much u Stan for kpj u go make fake quotes about me. I called you out b4 for your hypocritical behavior.

    U and i both know we like the Rockets since we been here for awhile but u aren't acting any differently from the sengun only fans if u have to resort to making fake quotes just to defend kpj. Disgusting.
     
  19. AlperenSengun

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    3>2... really deep stuff coming from someone who claims others don't have basic understanding of basketball. It just makes it more obvious why you don't care about his efficiency or how you can imagine him to be an all-star level player soon.


    It is not a lookie moment. We are discussing it because the video was posted and you tried to make a story that puts the fault on Sengun to distract from KPJ's fault. It is very easy to find tons of examples where KPJ fails to make the correct play to pass to an open man, in favor of taking a bad shot.

    Keep bullying, the only thing you have.

    That i agree with but the coaches would not complain if he could make the correct plays.
     
  20. AlperenSengun

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    The difference between Sengun fans and KPJ fans is that a small portion of the Sengun fans fit into the description given by KPJ stans whereas all of the KPJ fans fit the picture they described for Sengun fans perfectly, almost being a copy of each other.
     
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