KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

That's ridiculous.

 

Their overall lack of IQ and character are my main issues with the fervently anti KPJ crowd. Those things make them garbage tier posters for me. You can't give a valid take on anything with those shortcomings.

No fanbase should take people like that seriously.

 

Not a great take. There's no way kpj couldn't b a starter on the tanking teams. On playoff teams he probably will b the sixth man.

 

He was waived only because of character issues. Same reason he dropped to the 30th pk. I agree he doesn't always show the highest BBIQ, BUT that's not why they gave up on him.

His decision making has a ways to go for sure, but he has shown improvement on and so far... off the court. If they can all just play as a damn team, they will all look better.

 

Exactly people blaming KPJ clearly haven't played much basketball - he is getting zero help......

If guys were moving off the ball he could find them more easily but standing at the 3pt line is easy for the defense to guard so it is KPJ going 1 v 5 and passing if someone is open...this is 100% SIlas.

Now, KPJ needs to improve on his finishing at the rim, and limiting some boneheaded turnovers - but overall he has progressed a ton since he has been here.

And he isn't playing heavy minutes.....if Jabari and Green could start hitting shots we might have a chance.

DD

 

respectfully I don’t see any improvement in terms of his decision making. Same, old KPJ just plays for himself. Current situation of the team isn’t entirely his fault but to be fair, he still can’t adapt his game to PG position. Having handles and dribbling aren’t enough. Not a good example for Green.

Character issues are still there, undermining them doesn’t help the team at all. A mentor vet teaching him to shape his ego for the needs of Rockets would be very beneficial.

 

True but you seem to be confused what the definition of a 3rd stringer is.

6th man - 10th man
Second unit off the bench = 2nd stringers

11th-15th man on the roster, not directly in the rotation

That is a 3rd stringer.

 

Borderline rotation piece. Sorry that I wasn’t clear on that. He would be used as a 3rd stringer in a contender team. 10-15 min as a spark. Lack of effort on the defensive end would make him unplayable in playoffs even though he got tools.

let’s be realistic about him.

 

Tanking teams.

KPJ would start over.... for PG

Magic:. Terrance Ross ( maybe PG ) / Wagner (not if sg)
Spurs: Jones / Lanford (though they looked promising)​

Would not start over... for PG

Thunder: Shai / Giddey
Pistons: Cade / Ivey
Jazz: Mike Connelly
Pacers: Haliburton
Kings: Fox​

Others: not tank but low floors: (would not start over)

Blazers: Dame / Ant
Knicks: Brunson
Wizards: Beal
Hornets: LaMelo
Nets: Kyrie


Lakers: Lonnie/PatBev (maybe... doubtful), but not as the point since Lebron. KPJ be played more like a stand at a wing for catch n shoot.
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There's maybe less than 5 out of 30 NBA teams KPJ would actually start over.

 

if something similar happens, I would waive him immediately but it is way past that. You can't evaluate him on that at the moment. Things can change and you should look for things recently, like sulking, not giving full effort, not running to d after a turnover, communication problems with team mates etc.
If all looks good, he gets more and more credit each day.

This is a narrative you and others who are high on KPJ push which is simply not true. You can easily see that the ball moves more when KPJ is not in the game. The ball is not moving because everybody knows KPJ does not have the intention to do so and it is the game plan. That is still mostly on Silas, and KPJ is also a victim in that sense but it is what it is at the end. KPJ also does not find the open man multiple times each game so it is definitely not the case that he can't find an open man to pass to. He just does not look for it naturally, he needs to be taught and forced into doing that but not going to happen with Silas.

The thing I agree is that Silas is slowing down the development of every single player, even Green and KPJ who gets the most usage and freedom. Giving KPJ the current freedom has resulted KPJ doubling his 2 pt field goals, taking less catch and shoots, completely the opposite of what he should be doing. His true shooting is down despite doing much better on the free throws, the only thing that goes up is his points due to usage. The current style might work a little better with Bruno on the court, but you can play Bruno more than 15-20 minutes a game, it is still icing out the other players, it is still not efficient enough to win and when he plays with Sengun, it does not work at all.

 

True. it’s suspicious Magic or Spurs would even give him a chance. Coach Pop would have mental breakdown after seeing how selfish KPJ is.

 

How old is KPJ again?

When did he start learning to play PG?

Are we trying to win or develop?

Context seems to be missing from several so called Rocket's fans.

DD

 

Yes, let us be realistic. KPJ is rotation worthy league wide.

 

I don’t evaluate him for just that moment happened at Cavs. Did you forget he left court in the middle of the game? How professional and responsible is that? He keeps playing selfish all the way under unlimited freedom given by Silas to him. This team is KPJ’s team.

Can we stop treating him as if he is a rookie? Almost 23 years old and hasn’t shown ANY significant improvement. It’s all wishful thinking to expect something positive from him.

 

Ok that’s acceptable, borderline rotation piece.

 

I am not positive on him either, and I don't think any nba team would prefer to start him at pg other than the rockets. But the cavs issue or leaving the game are to be talked about when something of that kind happens again. I focus on his game, and the attitude problems if there are any that effects the game directly now.

 

For the sake of having him trade value, we should keep hyping him for the future. Maybe he gets us some picks.

 

A player's trade value rarely goes up by playing him more, particularly on a disfunctional team like the rockets. Look at Wood or Gordon.

 

Shortcomings of him are very clear, and those have been explained maybe like 1000 times. What you do is to ignore any constructive criticism.

Enjoy;

 

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