KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

Nah you got stumped with your troll replies to me and thinking that TS% is the beginning and ending when ranking a players on court talent/ability

there is no point in wasting time, only finite minds deal with time, now carry along and go troll someone else, it's boring at this point

and others in the entertainment field once upon a time called Iverson a so called '6ft Jordan', so i guess the entire world who doesn't agree with your TS% alphabet gang numbers are trolls as well, so be it

 

It's almost impossible for centers to play make themselves unless they draw consistent double teams. Sengun gets the ball plenty in the low and high post, but we don't have any actual threatening plays for him to run. Almost every time Sengun just surveys the floor, no ones open, goes to his low post moves and never actually passes the ball.

It doesn't seem like Sengun is even comfortable bringing the ball up the floor, he would rather get the ball in the low post instead.

 

That's exactly how the traditional inside out game works. You give the ball to the big man in the post. If no double team comes, he tries to score. Sengun is a pretty good low post scorer. If double team comes, he passes to the open man.

High post initiation, on the other hand, needs the whole team to work together. It involves off ball picks, hand offs, movements, etc. It's complicated and needs smart players who can read and react. I am not sure we have the coaching staff and the players to execute. But Sengun has good enough handles to dribble from the top of the key to the low post if he is single covered.

Lucas also mentioned about using PnR to give Sengun the ball on the move. I suspect that our guards don't have the ability to consistently make those quick pocket passes to the roller and Sengun is not athletic enough to make difficult catches. I still think that it is doable if they have the will to implement it and practice, practice, practice. That's why I was furious to hear that they scratched starting Sengun before the season even began. Starting Fernando means they don't have the will to make it work, just want the easier way.

 

And, Sengun's timing on the roll sucks, he is not an above the rim player, he has to delay his roll and finish with a 5 footer....or stop and pop if a big man is there.

He isn't doing it...

DD

 

Agree about Sengun's timing. Green can't fly around a screen and create an advantage with the screen because of his speed because Sengun is so slow to roll that the defense has time to catch up so what happens is Green spends all his time trying to manage a defender on his hip and has to create separation again if he wants to shoot it.

 

Iverson was good. He just stopped caring. Look at the Sixers team he took to the Finals

 

We have to start winning at some point. Look at how the current roster is performing.

 

You hit the nail on the head. There's absolutely no ball movement

 

Yes, timing is important. This is why they need to practice a lot.

And Sengun is not a rim runner. The idea is not to throw alleyoop for him to dunk. The idea is to pass him the ball while he's on the move in the lane so that he can either do his signature pump fake moves to score or pass it to a cutter or open outside shooter. At least that's how I understand Lucas's words.

 

I’m totally happy with how the roster is performing. I do not want to cross 22 wins

 

Yes but is Sengun good enough to run that type of low post offense. I think the answer is only yes for select matchups. Sengun is not always effective when he goes against sizable front courts with length and height on him, they rarely double him.

Regarding PnR, pocket passes in a PnR to an undersized big is about the hardest pass there is to make. Hell Harden can't even consistently deliver these passes to Embiid of all people, I don't even think KPJ and Green should attempt that more than a couple of times a game. It's honestly one of the most TO prone plays there is.

 

So far this season KPJ is the best player on the team. You might even say this is his team now.

 

Bro don’t start a riot

 

I thought I saw some double team on Sengun in the low post last season. It's when he had all those moves faking everybody out of their socks. He does have some trouble against bigger guys. But he is competent enough to be a threat. I remember reading a tweet that said Sengun was one of the league's top efficient low post scorers.

As for pnr pocket passes, I too don't think our guards can do that reliably. This is why it is tantamount for him to have an outside shot. Pick and pop is easier to achieve. BTW, I wonder why they don't try Jabari pick and pop more. That should be what Jabari can thrive.

 

"KPJ Sucks" Thread getting "lost in translation" on the 2nd page??? Not on my watch!

 

Harden was the better player skill wise but Iverson had more heart and will, you combine the 2, you get Michael Jordan.

 

Yes we are comparing different eras and even different conferences.

We are comparing one of the weakest eras in Eastern conference basketball in NBA history vs one of the strongest eras in the Western Conference in NBA history. That Warriors team was more stacked and unbeatable than that Lakers team. That Warriors team added a top 5 scorer in NBA history to a 72 win team two years before.

And the Sixers offense sucked ass. They were only good because of their defense. That means their plus defenders were a bigger reason why they reached the finals than AI.

 

And coincidentally we are on pace to be last again.

 

lol, during that finals run, the Sixers won games in which Iverson went 11-28, 10-31, 10-30, 8-27, 13-35, 10-32, and 5-27…

they played nobody in 1 of the weakest EC’s ever

their defense is why they made the finals and were as good as they were…the defense was never that good again, and AI and the Sixers never came close to reaching another finals