I.D.I.O.T.: Give Alpi the damn ball! KPJ has it 5 x longer. KPJ 2.8 pts/min. of poss., Alpi 10.9

Thank you lol.

A SG drafted number 2 overall shouldn’t need to be “set up” to score.

 

Alperen Sengun only generates 4 potential assists per game which means his teammates only miss 2 shots per contest against his running totals. Alpy only has 8.2% assist rate with the 3rd highest usage on the team with a turnover rate that mimics KPJ who handles the ball way more. I find it curious that the same things some fans offer as explanations for KPJs struggles are conveniently overlooked, but when its Alpy that is the victim then its a glaring issue? Some even say Sengun could play "point" better than KPJ???

I do agree with the concept that an assist is a two action stat, but context is vital when trying to assign "blame". With a suspect jumper defenses sag off Alpy and he has no dribble game to the basket to take advantage of the space. The team has to slow down and force feed his 7 post ups per game so that we can see the same move over and over and over. Not a big surprise that other teams pick up on the tendencies - this is the NBA not FIBA.

 

Him and Jabari are clanking wide open shots. When Jalen has the ball, he think he’s Kobe and take off balance midrange shots. People just don’t wanna accept that they’re playing like trash, so blaming KPJ is easier for them.

 

I still think Green's offense is way too iso heavy, it's not really sustainable or smart offense trying to beat everyone 1 v 1. I'm not worried about him clanking wide open 3's, I hate it when he tunnels on scoring at all cost and throws up bad shots

 

I would certainly love to see Sengun setting up the offense when he is on the floor.

 

That's the struggle everyone is having right now. Look at KPJ, he generates 12 potential assists per game....but his teammates are only converting 5 of those into actual assists.

A lot of that is on Silas, some of it is on the youth of the team.

 

Sorry. That was my sarcastic way of saying, "of course KPJ's time of possession is going to be longer thank Alpi's - he's a guard who brings the ball up the court". This is also why the stats separate "touches" from "front court touches". If you look at "front court touches", you'll see the main guys are almost dead even. As a corollary, yes, stats like "points per touch" are going to be skewed for people who handle the ball more, bring the ball up the court, etc.

The rest of what you're arguing is basketball strategy, IQ, etc. I'll let you guys do that because I don't know what's going on behind-the-scenes.

 

You got to be kidding me. A coach’s job is to make things easier for his top players. Not to just roll out the ball and hope they find a way to score.

 

As of 2022/10/31 - for greater than 15 minutes played. Ranked from best to worst.

Assist %, KPJ is around #44 (link)
Assist ratio, KPJ is around #115 (page 3 link)
Assist/TO ratio, KPJ is around #145 (page 3 link)

Fairly mediocre.

 

My post was in reference to Green being set up by Porter or another PG.

I agree that the coaches should be drawing up sets to make scoring easier.

 

Now imagine if his teammates converted more than half of the potential assists he creates for them.....

You could be better than Magic Johnson, John Stockton, and CP3 combined and it wouldn't matter if your teammates simply couldn't convert

 

confirmed by eye test... Anybody understanding a bit of ball knows that KPJ is an overrated third string scrub.

 

When kok get green and smith the ball, there is no open look at all. They need to operate and create for theirselves.

we need a better pg and move kpj to sf may be

 

Offense? what offense is he running

 

True. It's not all KPJ's fault. It's largely on them with some blame on the coach/system as well.

I said the same thing during the Harden era, but I think when one guy touches the ball so much and other guys are mostly standing around on offense it's hard for guys to get into a rhythm. Players are more prone to have cold streaks IMO.

Look at a team like GSW who in the past have been on the other end of the spectrum.


They have had all kinds of guys there who have mostly been successful. Guys who weren't all that in other places go there and become good players.

The Rockets in pre-season and the first couple of games shared the ball more. They played harder overall as well.

More ball and body movement on offense would help everyone including KPJ.

 

It's called me, myself and I offense. Very efficient. such a winner.

 

KPJ is playing well so far but we need to run some plays through Sengun because this crazy HERO BALL is not working. Team that have high assist % in a game will help them to win. I’m tired seeing Jabari going 3 for 14 every night. If you pass the ball quicker you will get the defender out of position and you will have great opportunity for a great shot. Sengun is a elite passer and maybe he can get Jabari going with his shot.

 

First and foremost, it's not like the guards do not want to give Alp the ball, they don't have the ability to. Look at yesterday's game, both KPJ and JG screened three times before giving up the ball in traffic, meaning they don't know how to feed the post player correctly. The best feeder on the team are Tate, Tyty and Gordon but, Tate and Tyty play too casual at times which contribute some uncharacteristic turnovers, Gordon just don't want to pass the ball and he's not wrong as he is shooting the light out this season so far. Nix is useless and gets off the team already. The front office either have to admit KPJ experience at the PG position is unsuccessful and acquire a true PG and move one of KPJ or Green to the bench, or let the guards jacking up the shots and giving up the post up totally, because even the stupidest coach know if they use KPJ or JG as a feeder they will be the leading turnover candidates of the league with no contest. As a result, our genius coach found a hybrid solution, let the guards keep jacking up shots and move the center to the bench. The problem is that, our guards are not Harden or Luka that they have ability to score consistently, or Paul George-like players that play adequate defense to overcome some of the poor shooting nights; therefore, both of our guards need to shoot over 50% behind the 3-point line every game to keep ourselves in the game, and KPJ and JG are not elite shooters. On the other hand, Alp, Eason and KJ have good chemistry because they know how positioning works, but they rarely play together. Our team is dysfunction in a weird way. The higher draft picks have better talent unfortunately don't play team basketball. The mid-lottery picks play better as a team but don't get the opportunities. The worst coaches may be simply looking at the +/- of the game to decide the next game starting lineup, that actually could work on our team. Anyway, there is only one thing for sure at this point. Silas is not the answer, unless tanking is your priority.