So, he might or might not get credit for the pitching decisions. He said that he essentially just does whatever Miller tells him too. I got the sense that Strom managed all pitching decisions as well. I’m not sure if that’s new to the Astros or if Dusty has always done that, but his prior stops the fans absolutely hated his pitching and especially bullpen management. Like, maniacal hatred. So, maybe that’s new or maybe he’s always done it that way and he just now in Houston has better pitching coaches. at any rate, I’m a big fan of delegating so if it was his decision good for him, that’s not a slight. Just a little insight from a recent interview he’s done.
I agree completely with your last sentence. And I give very little credit to your next to last sentence but it is true- a dipshit like Terry Collins or Jimy Williams Bo Porter could come in here and screw up the clubhouse. Diesel would be just fine with this team, as would Scrap Iron and obviously Hinch was. I assume too much maybe in thinking it would take an idiot to come in and “put their stamp” on the thing, but I guess baseball is populated by such idiots so maybe be deserved more credit than I’m giving him for not being an idiot.
and so the question begs…..was it not a genius move on Cranes part to fire Hinch and bring in Dusty? I mean how can you keep a manager around who let what happen occur? Then to tap Dusty and to your point, has been by all measures perfect for this clubhouse. I’m not a Pom Pom guy for any sports owner but Crane, as Dusty has done, seems to have pushed all the right buttons when it mattered most. Say what you want about existing talent but this organization could’ve easily fallen off a cliff if the wrong manager (and GM) came in and weren’t able to man the rudders and navigate the seas. Looking back its truly amazing that they’ve actually prospered the last couple years since the story broke.
I certainly hope he (and any manager) works with the staff to help make decisions, but it is ultimately his. I also assume he works with the staff to make lineup and strategy decisions. Assuming those things are all true, then if Miller gets credit for telling him what to do with regards to pitching, then shouldn't Miller get blamed for the head scratching decisions? The same with the offensive side of the game? Dusty gets blamed, but it seems that his good decisions get credited to others and the team wins "in spite of him" in a number of poster's minds.
The Astros Team Front Office and Coaches all have equal role. Pitching Coaches handle pitchers who are ready to work and who to rest. Dusty notices when to pull the pitcher at the right moment.
Dusty Baker notices when pitchers struggle and read body language really well and pull them correctly. Game 3 - Hunter Brown is a perfect example he struggled with control by walking a guy and got a out struggled, Dusty patient trying Hunter to get a second out he gets the second out he then Dusty took out Hunter Brown without losing confidence as a Rookie. Rafael Montero got the 3rd out.
Anyone still want to argue in support of Baker after this loss? We could play the rest of this series with no manager, no DH, No infield bench player, and win more games than we will with Dusty, Mancini, and Diaz.
It should've been obvious JV needed to be pulled. He was getting shelled and his body language also wasn't great. Dusty decided to stick with him out of loyalty and let it override logic. This isn't the regular season Dusty. You can't get away with **** like this in the World Series.
Knew the game was over when Luis Garcia came in. Putting Garcia over Stanek to face the heart of Phillies’ order is inexcusable.
He had 3 or 4 inexcusable decisions tonight. JV vs Realmuto Altuve not bunting? Not PH for Mancini Garcia not Stanek This has not been his best postseason, so far.
I've said it forever and his supporters get upset. He's a terrible manager and this is the reason he's never won despite being loaded with talent.
I really don't know why the lack of usage for Stanek? Urquidy and L.Garcia all season have given up HRs. And Garcia in a past World Series game gave up a big bomb to eventually lose the World Series. Pitching with a 2-0 series lead in Seattle is different than 0-0 in a World Series game. Garcia wasn't totally fooling anyone with his pitches, the foul ball that Harper hit was a rocket after the HR. Mistake 1 for Dusty, waiting for Phillies to make 1.
Verlander definitely should have been pulled after the 4th -- he wasn't fooling anyone and our bullpen was obviously 100% rested. Dusty tried to manage this game like a regular season game. Rob Thomson did not, and it paid off. I would also say that Verlander is at the moment our worst option in the starting rotation... so losing this game isn't a total surprise. Need a strong game from Framber tonight, which I would expect. Despite cold bats (except Tucker) and Verlander on the mound, it still took 10 innings and some plays that could have gone either way in order to beat us. A lot of baseball remains! (and yes, Dusty is a below average manager)
People are quick to want someone fired then we get someone else and you will want him fired to. There isn’t a perfect manager out there the players just have to get it done mainly the ones with the big contracts
I agree Dusty had a bad game But he has Been mostly good in the playoffs Baseball is a game of failure with some successes thrown in
The last time he used Garcia, everyone raved about him and some people even wanted him to start instead of Javier. The strength of the Astros is their depth - they showed they can go 18 innings or more with their bullpen. Sure they could have brought in Stanek for an inning, but they were going to have to go to Garcia the next inning regardless - he's the guy that was hopefully going to get them 5 innings again if needed.
