Are KPJ and Jalen Green going to be efficient scorers?

Im ready for the next iteration of this team when KPJ and sadly Silas are both gone. Tired of 2 SG stagnant system and dribble handoff heavy. Let’s get a new pg and some nice vet additions to play alongside Green. Instill leadership on the court starting with Green. Clear out the front court situation by subtracting Matthews and Gordon. Let Tari play. Let Josh play. Do whatever it takes to take Green to the next level and focus offense around him including putting ball more in his hands. I believe This is how you build continuity and set a foundation.

 

We're talking hoops. Nothing personal. KPJ isn't even close to our best player. He's just not efficient. I will say Jabari hasn't been even good either. Jalen is our best player. Kinda sucks Silas is a bad coach willing to highlight a 6th man in KPJ

 

I'd take KPJ as a 6th man but he stalls the entire team. Yeah, Silas is awful

 

Why do people use the phrase " he's our best player" when others point out the obvious? .. Yes KPJ is our best player, which ain't saying much when everyone else is 1st or 2nd year players .. So trade his ass since he may have some value.. He will not be one of the primary concerns once a real coach comes. If anything, you're setting KPJ up for a reality check-styled-setback , when the new regime comes.. Its inevitable!

 

He is our best player when you consider both ends of the floor, his ability to pass, and his ability to score......

I have said since we drafted Green that he and KPJ are similar and eventually we will need to trade one of them - I still feel that way, but am hoping KPJ can develop into more of a playmaker.

But when he just says....**** IT and goes all in on scoring he is amazing.....

DD

 

100% agree - my take from the beginning is KPJ is potentially VERY valuable to this team....but as a 6th man/instant scoring option/contextual play. He is the best player on this team today but if this teams turns into who we hope they are, Jalen and Jabari are going to be far more impactful to our team but KPJ can be a big reason why we win a title(if we win a title with this core).... He's cut from the JR Smith/Lou Williams/Vinnie Johnson/Ricky Pierce/Jamal Crawford/Manu Ginobili type of player - he's got that "no one can stop me, no lead is insurmountable, pressure doesn't worry me" irrational confidence gene that the best 6th men have. They come in and they do what they do best - blow up teams defensively with sneaky plays, and put teams on their heals when they are on offense. The trick will be getting him to buy into it!

...but yeah - fundamentally I think the problem is us asking him to facilitate when that isn't his skill and frankly I think that's a common mistake from less experienced organizations and ESPECIALLY coaches. When you have a winning formula and you don't have a lot of experience of course you want to replicate that and I think Silas is failing in trying to make KPJ more Luka like rather than admitting KPJ is another thing entirely and trying to figure out a way to present the best version of what THIS roster can be without trying to force people into roles they aren't suited for because it's more convenient for us. The Spurs/Coach Pop do this all the time - so far we are failing at that. If someone here has Silas' ear, I would love that concept shared with him.

 

Predictions of the Future?

Where is the crystal ball psychic guy?

They are too many things that may indicate now, whether a player will be XYZ later, but one if them is adaptability.
Guys adapt to your game. You have to expand your game. Guys like Russell Westbrook illustrate what can happen if your too rigid and inflexible.
The guys who show they can keep reinventing their game are the guys more likely to be efficient scorers.

 

KPJ being around Green is holding Green back. Green would be a much more efficient scorer with a real PG already. Or with Sengun running point center.

 

And if you think about it there has been almost no vet guidance or leadership on this team. Other than EG and Im not sure EG is that guy to be a great mentor and teacher. We did have Schroeder for couple months and he was very vocal and I thought we could have used him this year to guide these guards. But KPJ in his fourth year. Is he really teaching Green anything? Or are they both lost together? I don’t understand Stone’s vision right now.

 

J Crawford would be his peak in terms of efficiency...but he won't ever accept that bench role without provoking a disturbance in the team.

 

We need to run a proper offense, not whatever crap Silas is putting out there.

Green has proven that he can come off screens and hit 3s, much like Steph Curry. If we ran a similar offense, we'd be more efficient too.

I think most people agree Silas is just here for the tank and we'll fire him as soon as we're trying to compete (probably next year).

This year's draft pick is extremely important.. getting a top 1/2 pick vs getting a top 3/4/5 pick will be a franchise changing difference.

 

I honestly want to see the rockets let the offense b control by Sengun for a game or two. like let kpj dribble the ball up the court since he does have the better ball control, pass it to sengun and let see if sengun can have some form of control over the offense.

Fourth quarter, we can let kpj and green go iso mode.


When you have a bunch of youngster and rookies. someone really needs to have some sort of control over the offense. letting an inexperience point guard in KPJ winging it everytime just makes the offense looks like a clutster fk

 

I don't see the court vision that you do. He also dribbbles the air out of the ball. I don't think they have to trade him if he's willing to be a 6th man. I definitely agree with you that he can't start with Green. Doesn't hwlp Silas is an awful coach

 

Green has been a better defender than KPJ this season to be honest, and so far the stats meet the eye test as well.

However, the best player on this team is Eric Gordon. In addition:

1. If any championship team is knocking on our door, and they have a choice of any player on this roster to help them win this year. That player is going to be Eric Gordon every single time, not Green, nor Jabari, nor KPJ.
2. If a re-building team is knocking on our door and they have a choice of any of our players to add to their team, that player is most likely going to be Green, and likely Jabari afterwards.

KPJ has had by far the most opportunities on this team, but I am not convinced he is our best player. I cannot reasonably think of any team that, if given the choice, would choose KPJ first over any other player on this roster. Frankly speaking, the contract he received is proof of this.

 

Silas came with a plan for Harden Russ etc. I think he is treating KPJ as Harden, Jalen as Russ, Jabari as PJ Tucker…. If you look closely new players roles play exactly to og rockets strenghts. Thats why there id s No room for Sengun

 

I'm not sure I get why they're lumped together here. I think there are different expectations for either KPJ or Jalen.

I think Jalen is expected to ascend to being a star. Right now what I see is someone who has natural scoring talent but I question if he has the build to score easily enough in the paint to be efficient with minimal effort. And he's not a once in a lifetime shooter like Curry. It's hard not to make a Bradley Beal comparison.

KPJ is a good young player we got for nothing and we're just going to see how much he can help us. I don't think there's the same expectation the he becomes special like Jalen or Jabari. I think people may have been unnecessarily alarmed by the contract when it's really normal for a young player with potential that is getting big minutes, it's not that far off from what Lu Dort got.

 

Which he is clearly not, merely one of the best shooters.

He slowed down.