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Are KPJ and Jalen Green going to be efficient scorers?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pr0wler, Oct 27, 2022.

  1. kubli9

    kubli9 Member

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    As a starting duo? No.
     
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    Give them another year experience and a couple veterans on this team I think they can be

    If you have Nix, Christopher, Mathew’s, and Tate as your bench help I’d be selfish and chunk up shots too

    I think we are in for a heavy dose of inefficient backcourt chunking this season while Jabari adjust to the nba & we wait to improve the roster this off-season
     
  3. King1

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    We really need to see what we have in Green. I think he can be a Vince Carter type player. They both have faults but value as well. We won't see it develop with Jamal Crawford aka KPJ on the court. That's actually an insult to Crawford
     
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    Spreading Tate, Smith, and Green around the three-point is an offensive disaster. These guys would thrive with back-side player movement, pin-downs, screens, back cuts, etc. I'm waiting for the day when I see consistent off-the-ball action because it would open driving lanes and create moments of indecision for defenders. This headstrong iso, iso method is playing the game the hardest way possible.

    Maybe we stand around on offense because we're out of shape. We're afraid that too much running on the offensive side of the court will give us weak legs on D. We're trying to get our rest in bursts when we can.
     
  5. Dobbizzle

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    I think they could do it pretty easily tbh if KPJ wasn't playing point (or Silas had a better system to utilise him when he is.) I know everyone and their gran wants Wemby, I'd actually prefer Scoot. Then I'd run Scoot at the point and Green and Porter on the wings. Bari's a C with Tari on the floor and a 4 with Sengun on the floor. Tari slides between the 3/4. I still don't buy that KPJ's a 6th man. That kid's a starter level wing in the NBA.
     
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  6. Denovo

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    Green will be efficient no question.

    Porter most likely not.
     
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  7. DaDakota

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    Well that isn't realistic, most PGs are scorers now, Curry, Kyrie, hell all of them....

    DD
     
  8. King1

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    Let's bring him off the bench. No point in contiuing a worthles experience. His fans want to be cheerleaders instead of winners
     
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  9. Reeko

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    he has had 3 offseasons to work on his game…people always trying to lower his experience and years in the league to try and make him look better and lower expectations
     
  10. DatRocketFan

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    Folks on our team garuba, sengun, green and others seems to b held to a higher standard even though they are younger. a lot of kpj stans like to pretend that he's also a "2nd year" since this is his only 2nd year learning the role as pg.


    He really needs to b further along the development process as a 4th year. Idk questioning if he can still b an efficient scorer is quite troublin
     
  11. Reeko

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    must be some sort of weird coping mechanism

    What’s next? Compare 4th year KPJ to Harden in his 2nd year? Compare KPJ to 2nd year Shai? To 2nd year Ja? Compare him to Green right now?
     
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  12. kubli9

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    He needs to come off the bench then if he can't be a pass first, SCORE second PG. Nobody is saying he can't shoot the ball, just do it in the flow of the offense or after you've gotten your teammates involved.
     
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    Green will without a doubt be an efficient scorer. It is highly unlikely KPJ ever will IMO.
     
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    That sounds cool in theory but all skills are not equal and when you are talking about someone learning how to be a PG in the NBA you have to understand he isn't going to pick up making reads at NBA speed in pickup games or in a gym alone in the offseason. It just doesn't work that way.
     
  15. BallSoHarden

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    I think the goal is to get KPJ a ton of usage, stat pad like crazy while they lose a bunch of games, get a high draft pick, and then trade KPJ after artificially building value. You build a core around Green, Jabari, '23 draft pick, keep maybe Sengun and Eason, make a trade for a star. I think we are showcasing KPJ as much as we are KJ.
     
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    Hey OP, KPJ was in the same draft class as JA.

    Jalen was an actual 19 year old rookie just last year and is only a handful of games into his sophomore season.

    One of these things isn’t like the other.
     
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  17. DaDakota

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    That might be it.....for sure, his contract is really good if you want him or you want cap relief.....the problem with that is what if KPJ blows up as he is starting to do, and becomes an all star player......then do you trade Green?

    DD
     
  18. AlperenSengun

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    The value of KPJ is similar to Wood, way below what the rockets imagine it to be. The stat padding won't help if he keeps making the obvious mistakes, like missing the open guys, take bad shots etc. Nobody falls for he is making 6-7 assists a game, except the kpj fans here who are clones of each other. And if he improves, rockets would like to keep him on that contract.

    The way Rockets are trying to develop KPJ and Green is g-league style development, completely focused on the player individually but not how they function with the team. This is a very low level of development. Normally I would guess both will evolve to efficient shooters, but with this style of development, it seems like it will take more time than usual, or might not happen at all.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Nope he is our best player.

    DD
     
  20. Reeko

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    the amount of people turned into legitimate PG’s only after they’ve entered the NBA is slim to none, and the ones that do have naturally high BBIQ…Rockets are basically wasting their time

    a lot of the scoring PG’s today can still run an offense and lead a team even if they’re taking 20 shots a game

    Doncic, Young, Ja, Lillard, Garland, Brunson, etc all can run an offense

    KPJ looks like he’s only “PG” for this team because he just so happens to have the best ball handling and is the best passer among our perimeter players
     
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