Hell I don't come here enough to know...guess I'll have to catch up on this thread but I thought the pandemic was over?
True and I just received my booster and flu shots a couple weeks ago...glad I did cause I hated covid when a got it last year.
1. I specifically said the collagen in breastmilk, but I meant to say colostrum. Colostrum is the first milk a mother produces immediately after giving birth and contains high concentrated amounts of vitamin K (and the levels depends on the mother's diet as well). This milk lasts for a few days before gradually transitioning to "traditional" breast milk. Vitamin K shot not needed but it's still pushed for $$ reasons. Learn more about colostrum here: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/22434-colostrum https://www.bellybelly.com.au/breastfeeding/colostrum/ So no my info isn't bad at all, just used the wrong word accidentally. 2. That's a strange reason to recommend the heb-b vaccine within 24 hours of birth, simply because they assume people wouldn't take it later. The fact they try forcing it at birth likely turned a lot of people away from it (like us). they could just recommend it for later in life and leave it at that. I wonder how much extra $$ the manufactures/hospitals make with them recommending it for newborns. 3. You talk about the measles vaccine reducing the risk of RSV, yet with generally high vaccine compliance we are seeing a surge in RSV in kids right now. People are going to try blaming the isolating during the pandy as the reason but that would have worked with this story in fall/winter 2021, not fall/winter 2022. at the end of the day, based on statistics, measles was not a serious disease for children growing up pre measles vaccine. Yes a very small percentage had complications, like with any disease or virus, but 99% of kids recovered like they would after having the common cold. It's funny how Law and Order had an episode showing a measles outbreak and it essentially was the bubonic plague in that show, yet 40-50+ years earlier the Brady Bunch had an episode where all the kids and Alice got the measles (she missed it as a kid apparently) and it was a big joke in the show. Some people look at the data and statistics and figure for themselves the vaccine is more dangerous or gives unnecessary uncertainties due to how it was rushed, and they'd rather take their chances the natural way. We all know natural immunity is the most effective and lasts far longer than the vaccine (the reason for repeat boosters every couple months).
another win for sanity. yes lawd! I wasn't talking about the government making money (when does that happen?). I was specifically talking about these manufacturers making money off selling this (which they do) and govt officials (either directly or by proxy) with stake in this companies also making bank. Continually adding vaccines to the schedule is just a money making move when you look at how many were recommended in say the 70s vs now. What benefit has the several new additions provided to society? Like I want some concrete evidence. The best example is life expectancy, but that's been going up for nearly 200 years thanks to far better sanitation, less dangerous jobs per capita, proper education, and housing. It's the reason why diseases/viruses like polio, whooping cough, and tuberculosis dropped like a rock pre-vaccine.
Our immune system is amazing. The vaccine isn't an "immunity" system. All it is IS a replica of a part of the virus to "train" your immunity system. You get to "natural immunity" with either the replica or the real thing. The replica is controlled and doesn't replicate itself. The virus is not controlled, attack all part of your body, and replicate itself until your immune system can get rid of it. You may or may not get better protection against a future version of the virus with the real virus, but you do risk it damaging your body and even kill you with the real virus.
Smallpox has been eradicated because of global mass vaccination. If it's just because of "less dangerous job per capital, proper education, and housing", it would still exist today given how many areas of the globe are still piss poor in those areas.
Yup I know what colostrum is. There's nothing in the articles you post that suggest there is enough vitamin k in colostrum to ward off bleeding which is a threat to babies for 6 months. While its a rare condition, it does occur and the shot does reduce deaths. No one is forced to get the shot and many people decline it which is fine. The chances are low of anything bad happening, it's just a matter of how much risk someone is willing to take, but for a small number of people, it will turn out to be a tragic decision resulting in the death or serious brain damage of the child. That said, it's a choice. It's not an assumption, it's backed by data. Only 25% of adults have been vaccinated against Hep B, whereas now, you have close to something like 90% of babies/children vaccinated. That's going to save a lot of livers and reduce the spread of the disease and save everyone $$$ and suffering. Again it's not forced, it's a choice. You can get it later in life, but the reason for doing it at birth is clear: 90% is much higher than 25%. Well if less people are getting vaccinated for measles, you'd very much expect a rise in RSV cases. Less protection against RSV means a surge. Even a small change in the percentage can have a big impact. Also you had the end of COVID where kids went from being isolated back to an environment where diseases can be spread. I think it's important to fully look at the data before drawing conclusions about what is causing what. As for TV shows, I don't really care about that stuff. The data is the data and that's the end of it to me. Law and Order or the Brady Bunch aren't done to be PSA but rather get ratings. Yeah people can take data and invest whatever narrative they want really. Data won't solve for bias, so you have to look at things objectively without leaning to one side or the other, and not cherry pick studies and avoid confirmation bias. The data objectively does not say vaccines are more dangerous or unnecessary, and that the "natural way" is better. In fact, vaccines are a form of building natural immunity, using your own body's engineering to build defenses against a threat without experiencing the most devastating effects of the disease. I'm not going to change your mind, and that's ok. But I am going to say that your statements here are not accurate. It's your choice and your free to not get vaccinated. But don't justify it as being the data-driven choice - because it's not. It's opposite to objective logic. And that's ok. The whole anti-vax movement is built on one doctor's fudged data in a small study that he later admitted was false. Yet the ideas behind that live so strongly today. The idea that western medicine is not to be trusted has reasons for it after all. I hear so many times that people say "the science changes all the time" - that first they tell you to do one thing and then the opposite. Here's the thing, the science never changes. The change IS the science. Science is a process, and the problem isn't that one study contradicts another, the problem is that people jump to conclusions and react to something without really understanding what the data actually says. Natural isn't always better, but sometimes it is. Sometimes you can't trust what a doctor is telling you. Sometimes the experts don't tell you the whole story. It's not always clear. And it's never going to be clear because the human body and biology is freaking complex and takes an incredible amount of study to begin to understand. The people making many of the claims lack the knowledge to be making the claims. Just because someone is a doctor or does one type of job doesn't make them qualified to make the statement they do. And some of those people have conflicts of interest as well. So whatever information you take in, and whatever decision you make, ultimately there is very likely bias in your decision one way or the other. It's not a question of science at the end of the day, it's a question of trust. And clearly, you simply don't trust the "medical establishment" as some would say.
The point of me bringing it up in the first place is to show the human body has its own way of dealing with things. when the narrative would have you believe the only way a baby can get vitamin k is from a shot at birth. in combo with the colostrum + a mother eating foods and/or supplements higher in vit k you don't need to get shots. there's also oral as well. so only 25% of adults are vaxxed against heb b, yet the rate of heb b is only 1.1-1.6 per 100k for adults. it's 2022. kids have been around each other now for at least a year, and more in many places. but dont worry, it's been reported since at least 2021 but maybe earler, that there are mRNA vaccines for rsv in development. a year later rsv is hitting all the news media. in another year (or soon after) they will push the rsv vaccine. $$$. another lockdown induced crisis turned into money making machine for big pharma. for the tv shows, you are proving the point. law and order needed to get ratings by acting like the measles was the bubonic plague, scare people into the vaccine. the brady bunch couldnt do that in the 60s because everyone back then knew it wasn't simply due to the fact they all had it before, so the brady bunch played it off as comedy (way to skip school, etc.). vaccines don't build natural immunity because it is not natural. there are several studies of this, from many countries, for you to choose from: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35380632/ Conclusions: Naturally acquired immunity confers stronger protection against infection and symptomatic disease caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 2-dose vaccine-indued immunity.
That's great that there are alternative, but you are saying it's a money making scheme when it's actually good health care policy. You're assuming a lot of things here - congrats that you have done the homework to find a way to solve the problem. But even taking a supplement orally is taking a medicine and is not natural. I doubt that is possible given there are 1-2 million cases of Hep B in the US alone. Honestly this comes across as a conspiracy theory. I guarantee you the writers of a show don't think about things like scaring people to get ratings. That's just absurd. Vaccine for COVID don't build as much immunity because it's only part of the virus and a whole lot less of it. The whole point of the vaccine is to prevent you from having severe disease. I had COVID recently and thus I am not getting the booster for a while. Your point makes it seem that it's better to go out and get infected vs getting the vaccine.
There's a reason why China is still locking down cities and the west is mostly out of that phase. Vaccine quality obviously the difference maker even if people b**** about anecdotal defects that are either not their experience or hard to pin down the vax as the root cause. A 0.001% complication rate out of 300,000,000 people is a sizable number but comparatively much smaller than the chance of dying from novel virus your body has never handled before. With sinofarm or the russian variety, the success rate ranged from 45-70%. And who knows how many Chinese recieved whatever full treatment that entailed. Not great.
Yeah, I can't agree with masking against RSV. At some point, you just do nothing and rot inside your home because its War of the Worlds outside and you are the Martian... People should be allowed to make their choice and not get pressured for or against.
