KPJ: Can someone explain to me why he has become Clutchfans favorite whipping boy?

The only thing KPJ and Harden have in common is the amount of dribbles the players like to use. Harden is one of the best passers in the league. Feasted on finding the open man in the corner for three. KPJ misses that pass at least 10 times a game.

 

I really like KPJ - but he takes too many bad shots. That’s not horrible, he is still young and learning and he actually makes a good amount of tough shots, but he will be much better once he cuts out his bad shots. It seems like when he decides to drive and shoot the ball he rarely changes his mind and pass the ball once the paint gets stacked.

I think that’s half the story - the other half is people rooting for the rookies and second year players. They see Jabari open in the corner, or Sengun calling for the ball or Green after he went in a hot streak - and get frustrated when KPJ takes a bad shot instead.

Bow when you also consider the fact that KPJ had several “personal” issues in the past, not everyone trusts him.

All that being said, I could see him getting some votes for most improved player this year. He is having a great year and with just some adjustments he could be even a lot better.

 

Why do people always limit Sengun based on Athleticism? Just look at some of the top players in the league over last few years. Luka, Harden, Curry, Jokic CP3. None of these guys have elite ahtleticism. They just know how to play the game. Give the me guy who thinks over the guy who can jump any day.

This is Russell Westbrook vs CP3 all over again.

 

OK you have nothing.

 

One, Harden is way better lol. Second, yes a lot of people including me were complaining about the play style.

 

Green has missed him just as much and he has not shot good enough to prioritize him.

KPJ is not a traditional pg and there are not a lot of them these days whose job is to set everything up, we need to stop judging him in the CP3 mode.

I am not saying he is a great pg but IMO it does not matter at this point he still has a chance to develop those skills while we are rebuilding.

 

Poole has the contract and the ring to prove who is better. 30/30 NBA GMs would agree.

 

Well you would be the expert on having nothing.

 

LOL

Big hate energy in here.

 

Let me get this straight, you want the rest of the team to starting moving around for a player who is absolutely lost already and shown time and time again that he can't even pick out the open players STANDING STILL at the perimeter? KPJ is not doing fantastic at what he is being asked to do. Hell, he's not even doing fine. If he was doing fine, he would be...

• NOT jumping in the air without a plan multiple times a game
• NOT missing the open corner man to 1 v multiple opponents on an ugly shot
• NOT be dribbling into traffic constantly and then doing one of the actions mentioned above
• NOT seeing out the hot hand and creating scoring opportunities for them

Now, has he improved in some ares? Sure, just not in any of the areas that actually matter. How he still has not learned to dribble out when the D starts closing in on him is beyond me. That is something you see even mediocre PGs do; dribble out to reassess what the D now looks like and direct your teammates.

Now, he certainly could improve his court vision given sufficient time. I certainly won't ever say a young player cannot improve on it. At the same time, I am certainly not betting on him to surprise me. Once Green's handles are a bit tighter or TyTy is more NBA ready or Sengun can develop some range, I am hoping to the basketball gods that we move him to an off-ball role.

PS
As for "sacrificing his entire game", I honestly don't get why you keep trying to make a huge deal of it. The only reason he is doing that is because he would be out of a role completely if he didn’t. Green is already a much better ISO scorer than KPJ, so it was either learn a position of need or come off the bench.

 

KPJ is just not a trad PG
he can make plays and if defense balance gets compromised, he’ll make the right pass most of the time.
but in terms of setting up the team and organizing the play, he’s not that guy.

When he’s your PG you have to give him the ball and let him cook. However, we have other weapons on the team who can make plays: Green, Sengun, Jabari (I’m higher on his ability to make plays than others), Jaygup has a nice midrange pull-up, Nix is intriguing… So I just don’t see us becoming a KPJ-centric team, like a Doncic or a Harden team.
I’d like us to have a trad PG, someone like the Jones bros., to organize the team for stretches, maybe off the bench.

I expected KPJ to be the best player on the team, and he probably is. Last year I expected Wood to be the best player and he was. It’s just a very messed up sitch when your best player is not the one you are building the team around. So for coach Silas to say KPJ needs to make more plays, it makes sense, because he’s good. But on the other hand you have these kids that are considered to be your future, so everyone gets angry at the idea that KPJ is more featured… It’s messed up somewhat.

 

Ah yes in a sport forum where folks like to make strong opinions and treat it like facts. U called sengun a below average player with ALL the metrics to back it up, and folks are calling you out on it. why do they have to do the work to prove you wrong. If you don't have da data, u except folks to blindly trust u and take your word for it?

I don't think sengun is a below average player, man played like 3 games this season, with two quite stellar game. No way does ALL the metrics have him at below average.

 

Haha. Yes, a player having a ring automatically makes them better. Flawless logic.

 

Nobody called me out and all you have to do is go to NBA.com and look at the numbers.

 

It's even simpler than that, those players all have range. Sengun doesn't have to develop a 3pt shot, but he has to have at least a reliable midrange shot OR be absolutely elite in the post. People bring up athleticism because it's something that he is lacking that he can never develop and that puts an immediate hard cap on how good he can naturally be without developing the above mentioned skills. Since you mentioned him, let's take Jokic for example. Jokic is massive. People are not bullying Jokic and bumping him out of the way. Jokic also has range. Without that, he wouldn't be the superstar MVP that he is.

 

so you are telling me if I were to go to the NBA.com every single metrics available that i can see will have Sengun below average, hence your classification of him as a below average player?

Yea im not buying that garbage u are trying to sell.

 

OK, continue with your ignorance.

 

It’s mainly the Sengun only fans. They feel like he should the ball, so they take their frustrations out on KPJ and blame him for everything

 

Because we didn't draft him. That's it. Simple.