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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Any doctor refusing to see unvaccinated patients is not part of established medicine given the medical establishment recommends against that. If a doctor ridicules or attacks someone for not being vaccinated, they are radically outside established medicine.

    How does a doctor in your book get defined as being part of the "establishment"?

    Because this doctor here you've quoted is quoting all the recommendations from established medical organizations, that would make him part of the establishment no?
     
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    The American Association of Pediatricians or whatever they are called would be considered establishment, and they have peddled plenty of unscientific crap.
     
  3. Amiga

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    Yea, like 1 in a billion doctor.

    It probably came up in your feed because the alg saw you viewed similar content. That dude's website is full of delusional thinking. He seems like an activist against the medical establishment worldwide.

    The below statement of that doctor showcases his delusion. The Medical Establishment isn't at odds with that statement.

    "Every patient has the right to complete bodily autonomy after being informed of the Risks & Benefits of any intervention (informed consent). I respect that choice & remain non-judgemental. In 2022, this statement puts me at odds with the Medical Establishment."
     
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    Ok then criticized whatever unscientific crap they are peddling. But if people are going to criticize them for stuff they agree with, it makes no sense. That's just a strawman.
     
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    And since the government classified it as a recommended (NOT REQUIRED) vaccine for children the cost will be covered by insurance and other means.
     
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    Misleading as usual.

    The price has not been hiked. The price is expected to go up to $110-$130 in ~1Q of next year after the US government exhausted its stockpile and the US transitioned to a commercial model (private insurance picking up most of the cost).

    If you want to continue the low price the gov is paying ($20-$30), some options are:
    a- continue the state of the emergency and Congress approve new spending for Covid vaccine
    b- move to a public health care model for drugs

    Which do you prefer?

    EDIT: We know what Republicans prefer. They voted against capping insulin drug prices. They voted against giving the gov the power to negotiate prescription drug prices for Medicare.
     
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    I truly do not get why any of you are against the mRNA vaccine platform which is arguably the biggest human achievement since the internet.
     
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    You mean like this guy who claimed that children as household contacts could be infected with AIDS?



    I guess in this day and age, Twitter would have censored and banned people for disagreeing with Fauci, because he is "the science", yes?

    https://www.yahoo.com/video/video-resurfaces-fauci-warning-household-180945365.html

    My point is, it's ok for people, including scientists, to be wrong.

    What is not ok is for the government to collude with social media to suppress any dissenting views, based on the false assumption that "the science" is "set".

    It isn't. Not on "climate change" either.
     
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    There are dissenting views for sure, but then there is the spread of deliberate misinformation.

    A dissenting view is the risk benefit analysis does not justify universal vaccination of pediatric patients without underlying risk factors vs the company line everyone should get the vaccine. Misinformation is that everyone who gets the vaccine is getting myocarditis or is infertile.
     
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    What you call "collude" is simply gov and private sector working together on how best to serve the public interest (a norm that has always happened). There is no punishment of private companies or requirements on private companies. You aren't okay with this. That's fine.

    But then you are fine with gov actually punishing private companies for their views that the gov does not like. See Desantis. This is absolutely not ok.
     
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    Are you a subhuman?
     
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    If COVID was created in a Chinese lab then China must also know this virus is dangerous long term based on their zero COVID policy.
     
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    It’s always sobering to dip into D&D and see who is actually a delusional person. Scary.
     
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