Internet expects every top 5 pick to be a LeBron or an MJ and instantly carry us to home court advantage. What else is new?
i hate this excuse. You don’t have to dominate. But players that have either dominated or done well. Paolo Ivey Mathurin Duren Tari LaRavia Jabari isn’t getting any easy dunks. But he is getting wide open 3s. I noted it’s early. I also want to see SOMETHING. Jg dominated summer league than had flashes. Alpi was even younger and was “great” from the start of summer league. Etc. It’s VERY EARLY. I get it. I’m just concerned.
Kind of a bad comparison because with Jalen you knew he had the offensive arsenal, technical ability and athleticism, so it was more about adjusting to NBA level. Whereas with Jabari there are clear skill deficiencies and less athleticism than Green, so it's more about developing skills and showing he can clearly grow beyond what he is now. Absolutely no one here bases it on that, don't make up strawmen. There are valid criticisms and it doesn't mean someone expects Jabari to be a complete package and HOFer.
Both your concern and BigM’s patience is valid. Let’s give it some time and see how he responds to his struggles. Even Steph has off games. shooters gotta keep shooting
One thing that worries me is that Jabari is supposed to be 6’11 but he plays so much smaller. Like if you are in the paint dunk that ****. According to Ryan Hollins he just needs to get stronger, but i don’t ever think Jabari will be a lob threat
I don’t know. It’s 3 professional games. The first two looked good, last night was ass. Criticism is warranted but prognostication on what his ceiling is just seems silly.
I think you guys are really missing the point here, this isn't about a small sample size or kneejerk. Like this is for example what I said before the draft in another chat: "After watching a ton of game summaries for Jabari, I'm really confused how ppl thought he might be #1 pick. Besides defense and making highly contested jumpers without dribbling (or only a 1-2 dribble gather), he does nothing else really on offense. He falls off pretty hard compared to Paolo and Chet when it comes to all-round game and has serious skill deficiencies. "and it's also not a system thing when you watch all those game summaries and can see Jabari 9/10 times doesn't drive even when defenders have bad positioning and he should punish em" I talked more in detail about his ncaa performances and lack of offensive polish and Ball-Handling on CF too, all of this was 100% observable if you looked at his ncaa performances and didn't just go with the media narratives or highlight mixes that only show successful baskets or blocks.
Bari is listed at 220 lbs. He could easily bulk up to 245 lbs with his body habits without losing any speed or agility.
I'm not saying it's an excuse. He is playing poorly. But he barely played preseason and it's his 3rd NBA game total. Give it more than a week dude lmao.
I only start getting worried about players 2nd or 3rd year lol...NBA is rough. I think him missing his open 3s is just a mental thing, probably pressing too much, eager to prove he was not only worth the #3 pick but that he should have been #1. I'm sure once he settles down he'll be that sniper we expect him to be.
An early concern is this team seemingly freezing Jabari out early on and then when he does get the ball he feels the need to rush a shot or force something because he feels like he won't get another chance unless he does so. KPJ's leash should be every bit as tight as Jabari's or Sengun's seem to be. There's been multiple times Jabari is *wide open* and the scrubs don't find him and jack up a contested shot (JC yesterday, KPj both games). Jabari isn't a normal rookie or a normal player. Get him the ****ing ball. He's #2 on this team from a talent standpoint. He needs to be #2 in shot attempts.
He is 100% okay. I am so happy he gets 35 minutes with the starters even when he is struggling. He is going to come along so quick. He would be better If he was allowed to play with Sengun, and we put a stop to the incessant KPJ dribbling.
He is an interesting player. In college he was an elite shooter and an elite defender. Those two skills usually translate pretty well to the pros and those two skills are very important in todays NBA. At the same time he was far from elite at most other aspects like dribbling, passing, driving and finishing and rebounding. Now I do think this situation is comparable to Green. Why? Because he has trouble to show the things he was really good at before - just as Green. His shot isn‘t falling and sometimes the game seems to be too fast for him. If he would hit at close to the percentage he did in college, he would be averaging around 20 points right now - and maybe his teammates would be more hesistant to ignore him open in the corner. His defense already is pretty good for a rookie but of course there are some growing pains.
thats entirely the point. It’s been since pre-draft. These were items of concern - wound shooting translate, if not would defense translate etc. his tape showed a limited player. His summer league showed a limited player. And outside of one preseason game his regular league has shown a somewhat limited or struggling player. I’m by no means off the Jabari bandwagon. Idgaf if the dude sucks a year and in year 2 is awesome. As long as he’s eventually awesome. what I do give af about is stuff like how theyve treated Alpi who is unquestionably their 2nd best prospect at the moment.
lmao nobody was concerned pre draft about his shooting translating. Everybody considered him one of if not the best shooting prospect in the draft. That just simply never happened. Defense always takes some time for young guys to transition to the NBA game. Give it time. Again, he is 19 years old.
Jabari already put on like 20-25 pounds probably in the last 1-1.5 years. People want him to play post when he was a beanpole just a year ago. He probably hasn't learned to play the post. He's not gonna be able to do much against bigger guys down low except hopefully block their shots. Let's hope his shots fall eventually. I'm also not sure what the ultimate goal with him is. I guess we'll see.
Daaaaammmmnn! Like we learned absolutely nothing from last year. Absolutely nothing. Did it with Jalen, (now many eating their words, myself included) Doing it with Alperen, doing it with Jabari. Declarations after SL, one preseason game, two regular season games… Why? Banchero would’ve been cool but we didn’t have a chance at PB or Chet. We didn’t pass on those guys. Murray? Ivey? Mathurin? Sharpe? Daniels? Chill. Have some patience. There was some delusion from some before the preseason about making the play-in and a 3-1 preseason only furthered those delusions… Again, just chill. There are still rough seas ahead (both for Jabari and the Rockets). It’s not the end of the world. We don’t need to make career (or even season) declarations and fire this guy and fire that guy.
