Barack Obama says Democrats need to avoid being a 'buzzkill'

and what's his relevance to this thread?

 

Who said don't have caimpaign ads?

I see you are now going to start a circular argument and answer my actual questions and ignore the fact there are actual adds with the stuff you want to see.

Democrats are doing nothing with there adds because it would be like burning money the fact that you think adds are the key to turning Texas Democratic tells me all I need to know.

I like in Texas and I see mainly Beto adds and talking about the economy in Texas is a ad for Republicans.

Here is the latest Beto ad.

 

To thread not much? But you did make a claim about Obama and his rhetoric was divisive and I'm just saying that is a stupid premise. That's all.

 

This ad is being played on TV? You really think abortion and school shooting ads are more effective in swinging fence sitters? Democrats already have the voters on abortion and school shooters. Focus on the stuff that matters to the fence sitters. Abortion and school shooting ads are burning money.

 

Do you actually think there are "swinging fence sitters in"? in TX?

Abortion is a very big issue in Texas for the few fence sitters because Abortion is pretty much outlawed in Texas and the economy of Texas is pretty good what do you think can persuade swing voters?

What topic is the one that would swing Texas voters?

 

it was certainly not insightful to bring Mad Dog into the thread.

 

Right now economy, crime, immigration. Everyone already knows about abortion and which side each candidate is on. The right keeps pushing how bad the economy is in regular TV ads, the left is letting them get away with it. There is no way any more votes are being gained on the abortion topic. Zero. Those ads are wasting money. However, some different ads just might swing some fence sitters on the economy. Give some rebuttal to the GOPs bullshit on inflation, crime, and immigration. Stop preaching to the ****ing choir.

 

are you suggesting 8% inflation is "bullshit" and that crime in major cities has not become an epidemic?

 

I'm suggesting the GOP reasoning for it is bullshit.

 

Also refer back to 2019 when economists told us this **** was going to happen because of Trump's tariffs. It started then. The pandemic just delayed it. Please just educate yourself just a little. Just one tiny bit.

 

It definitely was insightful to your premise that Obama was the first president of your life time to say mean things about voters and was divisive. Because Mad Dog, someone who has some conservatives meat him, someone who actually has done something in his life for his conservative causes disagrees and says Trump was the first president l, not Obama. That's how it's relevant.

 

the voters seem educated on this just fine; we'll see what they have to say in a few weeks.

 

except Obama came before Trump, so your, and Mad Dog's assertion is incorrect.

 

I trust Mad Dog on this matter more. He's done more for the conservative cause so his skin is in the game. He has served the country for decades and has worked with multiple presidents.


Can you explain why you would be more credible with this subject on which president was first to be explicitly divisive?

 

Nah most voters are like "sTiP prInTiNg MoNeY" and that is the extent of their nuance. Like I doubt many voters knew this was happening in 2019 before Covid:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u...d-during-the-2008-financial-crisis-2019-06-19

 

On the subject of ads regarding issues like crime. This ad has recently gone into circulation here in MN for MN CD2 one of the most contested races. This is from incumbent Democrat Angie Craig.


Keith Ellison in a very tight race for MN AG also has an add that touted he increased the number of prosecutors.


Both Craig and Ellison are being bombarded with ads claiming they are and other Democrats are soft on crime.

 

Not really…. One party has consistently tried investing in America and Americans. Remember Monetary and Fiscal policy need to work together. Austerity was sabotage at worst and economic malpractice at best. The best time to spend money on Americans is when money is cheap.

How many GOPers voted for infrastructure bill?

 

What about crime in rural areas? What about crime in Red States? What about the worsening life expectancy in red states?

Despite the crime uptick that started under Trump during Covid, it is still safer the previous decades.

 

what about them? is not Biden president of the entire country?

 

I agree with Obama. As a person that is left center, I think the rhetoric is stupid. "Defund the police" is stupid. When you have to explain a slogan, it's a bad slogan. That being said, the Republicans are siding with Authoritarians, criminals and the Christian Taliban, so I'm voting democrat for the foreseeable future, but the left isn't it making it easy.