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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    I think it's saying that since about Spring of 2021 (when vaccines were widely available), there has been an increasing gap between Republicans and Democrats in excess deaths, even after adjusting for age.

    Anybody who recognizes that vaccines do protect against severe illness/death for COVID (which I assume includes you) shouldn't be surprised by this.
     
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    It does include me - as it relates tolder and other vulnerable people. The younger and healthier the person, the less impactful the vaccine becomes, snd arguably for some (like young heathy men), the risk/reward ratio might be negative. I would always recommend it to older or otherwise vulnerable people though. I would also recommend Paxlovid to the same target group, if they get it.

    Matter of fact, i would think a package of some tests and some paxlovid should be sellable to eligible folks in advance. And the same folks should get vaccination reminders.
     
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    I am not sure this represents the actual picture. For example, NY state of emergency allows it to distribute Paxlovid based on a phone call to the COVID hotline. I know this because I got COVID while in NY and was really sick, but got Paxlovid the same day without having to go anywhere and that made a huge difference within 24 hours.
     
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    I believe that is based on the Paxlovid Emergency Use Authorization, not on the state of emergency.

    I'm interested though - you are still young, right? I'm surprised you could get it this easily. Still needs a prescription by a doctor.
     
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    The state emergency facilitates accessibility. So through the NY Hotline, I was able to get a dr on the phone right there, and get a prescription delivered - and all of this at no cost.

    The reason I qualify is because I have a high BMI due to the quirks of being super tall
     
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    U.S. Extends COVID-19 Public Health Emergency 90 Days (webmd.com)

    Oct. 15, 2022 -- With health officials saying a winter spike in COVID-19 cases is possible, the Biden administration this week extended the COVID-19 public health emergency to Jan. 11, 2023.

    The COVID public health emergency was first declared in January 2020 by the Trump administration and has been renewed every 90 days since.

    The declaration allowed changes throughout the healthcare system, including the free distribution of COVID vaccines and treatments. Medicaid coverage was expanded to millions of Americans, more telehealth services were authorized, and hospitals gained flexibility in how to respond to patient surges.

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    The administration says it will give 60-days’ notice before ending the public health emergency.
    The United States has recorded almost 97 million confirmed COVID cases and more than 1 million COVID-related deaths – more than any other nation.
     
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    I think that would mean I might qualify as well. Also, I think they might lower the age requirement to 50...in which case I would also qualify (sadly).

    I would totally take it, without hesitation.
     
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    I was so sick the first day, but after the Paxlovid I started feeling better within a day. And much better in 48 hours. It really is a game changer.
     
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    100 % agree. Glad it helped.

    On a policy level, I think Paxlovid being available is actually a very strong argument against mandates and lockdowns. It just needs to be ensured that it gets to the people who are eligible.
     
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    I'm just saying the COVID state emergencies aren't all about mandates and lockdowns.

    Should school children be required to get a COVID vaccine? Or any vaccine for that matter?

    It's a debatable question. The scientific evidence supports vaccinations, but people want to have rights around this and that's understandable. Unfortunately the whole anti-vax movement if fueled by research from decades ago that the original doctor admits was faulty. COVID vaccine was tested on nearly 60k people as one of the largest vaccine human trials in human history, so it's hard to understand why people say it hasn't been tested enough or is not safe.

    I think it's a logical fallacy for people to say these COVID vaccines are unsafe compared with just getting COVID...but that said I still don't think people should be mandated to get them unless they work in super critical areas where getting COVID would put people at risk (like a nursing home or hospital) or represent a security threat (like the military).
     
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    that would be ridiculous and anti-science
     
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    Awesome. Great move to help the situation
     
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    What's the situation? You do understand this is not a vaccination?
     
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    The situation is that it will help continue to minimize the threat of Covid-19.
     
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    if you want to be misinformed or be more stupid, do Tucker Carson
     
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    This is without knowing the long-term impact or cumulative impacts of covid. We won't know for years, but we are learning more by the day. Recent studies are not great.

    For a while now, we know that covid causes damage to blood vessels. A recent study suggests it causes micro damages - too small to notice or be detectable but can still cause issues now or down the road.

    We know that all of us can be re-infected over and over. A recent study shows that while each new infection isn't worse than the previous one, the damages done seem to be accumulative. Risks for diseases increases with each new infection.
     
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