[ClutchFans] Why Alperen Sengun will come off the bench

It will matter if he does not play with Jabari, and play with guards with weaker perimeter defense and less understanding of where to move. He will get more touches maybe, but he will develop less.

I am disappointed that this is the first choice of the coaching staff but I am okay to wait and see how it goes. I might be completely wrong on Bruno, and how he fits but I don't think it is going to work as expected. The lob threat is way overstated, since this is the only solid thing for justification and there is not much else.

And yeah, I would be pissed off if I was told I have to earn it, when I had worked my ass off last year and performed much better than the guy replacing me.

 

People been sayin this. It's only his die hards who can't see what's obvious to most.

 

Sengun is easily behind Smith and Green as prospects right now, so Sengun is at best our 3rd best prospect.

 

Nowadays, a few teams like the Celtics (Rob Williams) use a lob threat. But it's certainly not a requirement to be a good contender. Using as a main reason seems questionable; since I don't think our guards and front court guys even have the fundamental pick and roll down yet.

 

Fernando is not the better fit with the starters, he is the easier fit. With Sengun you actually have to come up with schemes that maximize everyone. Sengun does not need to exclusively play out of the post, he can benefit the guards in DHOs, short rolls(if the guards ever pass him the ball), elbow sets etc. Maximizing the team is meshing Sengun’s playmaking with the shot making of the guards, not segregating them. But that requires actual coaching. What they are doing now is not smart, it’s just lazy.

 

makes sense. when he's out there with less starters that needs the ball in their hands, things will run through him more. It's about balance based on the roster. Folks just wanting to thrust him in the starting unit aren't taking into account balance of rotation. He's still going to get a lot of minutes. so at the end of the day it shouldn't be much of an issue. the most important thing is if he is able to take steps forward in development. this doesn't mean fernando is better

I suspect the people feelings most hurt are the same ones that anointed Sengun the rockets best player. that's isn't anyone else's problem but yours if you're in that boat

 

In 29 other teams Fernando isn’t even an NBA player let alone a starter. This is insanity.

 

It's a long season. Things will change back and forth.

In the end, I am convinced he is too talented to not give him the minutes (whether as a starter or as the NBA's 6th man of the year).

As to Fernando, I think he is not that good. He isn't even in the same stratosphere as Sengun. Literally the only thing I think he is better at is finishing alley-oops.

 

I just traded Middleton for Sengun.... Oh no

 

I will say I did not expect roster balance to matter much for the Rockets. I thought they would try to get develop Green, Porter, and Sengun such that they would learn how to play with other ball dominant players. As such, Sengun not starting helps in some regard to development, but does not help in a very important part as well.

 

Kinda felt this coming. If I'm being honest with myself at this point if there is a pick and roll play where either of the guards have an open shot or lane to the basket I would much rather that shot be taken then try to force the ball into Sengun. At least with Bruno they have the option to go over the top. It's that simple to me regarding the first unit gaurds (JG, EG, KPJ).

Now with that second unit Alpi should and probably will be the first option. The only problem I see is getting JC on board with that, cause that guy seems to think he is the first, second, and third option in the second unit.

 

Bruno is not really in our core, it accelerates the growth of KPJ and Green though, and makes the entire thing flow more freely for all.

We are playing OUTSIDE in offense, or ISO oriented offense.....which is why this is happening. And it is what Silas is known for.......Sengun needs to find a way to fit, or we change coaches and go to a Rick Adelman style of movement and cutting.

DD

 

So far in his time with the Rockets they have done everything in their power to deemphasize Sengun. Last year Sengun looked like the FAR better player than Green out of the gate yet they barely gave him minutes vs force feeding minutes to Green. Now they trade Wood, with zero capable centers left on the team, and still bench him and possibly only increase his minutes minimally vs last year. But I’m not concerned for him, you cannot keep a lion caged and eventually he’s going to be let loose, whether that’s on this team or the next. For the Rocket’s sake, and as a fan of the team, I just hope we either wake up ourselves or recoup the value we invested on him.

 

I don't think you can start to developing winning habits and impact games that actually lead to wins, unless your roster shifts towards balance. Because eventually if things are going in that direction it weeds out those that don't actually fit. So as youth becomes experience, versatility and balance in the rotation becomes part of the evolution

 

Judging by the comments in this thread there must be a fair amount of people who believe Sengun will be a top 2 or 3 player on a championship team. Interesting.

 

We should’ve kept Jarrett Allen then.

 

So Sengun will probably not progress as much since he will have limited talent to run with. Sengun needs shooters around him and he is going to get stuck with Tate, JC, and KMJ for a significant amount of the time. Bruno is way overrated on this board.

 

that will always be a mistake. CF's wanted to use the logic of him getting max and welp we saw he didn't get it

 

Agree with this.

I don't know if it's going to happen, but it would be a questionable decision to me without having tried a fit previously.

Btw, I doubt about Bruno being a better rim protector than Sengun. He's more athletic, but that's it.

At least, I would like to see the Rockets trying to make it work with Alperen as starter before bringing him off the bench. You don't need to be playing every play off your guards, that's gonna be more predictable and ultimately will hurt their efficiency. Alperen is a modern big, he's just not athletic, but can help the team in many ways. I agree with CXbby that it takes an effort to make room for him in the offense, specially the -sporadic- post touches, but every offense needs a proper third option and Jabari and Tate should be the complements. It's not like the Rockets have already 3 all-stars + Sengun... And Sengun can help you at many ways, not only posting up. It's just about playing him in the post sometimes (just not never). We're not talking about Yao Ming, Dwight Howard... he's not that kind of player and doesn't demand that. Hey, he played in Turkey with an scoring PG (Larkin) + 2 ballhogs like Korkmaz and Osman, and still they managed to find possesions for him.

I think the Rockets at least should try to start him., there's always time to change the plan, but first you try the one with more potential, and he's simply a much better player than Bruno.

 

I knew Silas was going to do this. whatever.

He didnt even try to see what happens with Jabari first.