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What if we just signed Draymond Green next season?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SamFisher, Oct 14, 2022.

  1. Phillyrocket

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    You have a short window of time when your stars are young and cheap to sign a max FA and then go over the cap with bird rights to retain your drafted guys. If you don’t take advantage then you have to hope all your young guys turn into stars. Wonderful but unlikely. The Spurs made that work with Duncan, Parker and Ginobili but that’s hitting gold in several drafts.

    I’ve said it several times we should emulate Boston who drafted Brown and Tatum and then traded for Kyrie and signed Hayward. Due to injuries it didn’t work out but the idea was sound.

    A similar approach would be to sign Middleton and trade Gordon and BKN picks for another star.

    I agree Khris is older than I would like but everyone is resigning and options are becoming limited.
     
  2. riko

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    He is washed. Nowhere near a 30 plus million player he once was. Plus his game not as. Valuable on another team without Curry, klay and Poole. In short elite shooting
     
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    What if we just mailed Draymond to Jupiter and never heard from him again.
     
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  5. SamFisher

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    Yes because due to the Warriors tax situation every $ they pay Green they effectively have to pay several multiples of back to the league via the Luxury repeater tax. I think its like 5x after this year. A Draymond Green opt in for even next year costs them over $150 million in salary and tax, just for next year. That's a lot, even for the Warriors ownership

    My guess is that is very unlikely to happen given his history and given they stiffed him for Wiggins - Poole extensions (hence the punch,)
     
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    It’s a player option. The Warriors have no control over what Draymond chooses.

    I’d agree it seems like the Warriors are moving on. As they should. Even more reason though that I wouldn’t want him.

    again his value is maximized on the warriors and even they seem to be saying nope he’s going to want too much $ for what he’ll now be able to bring to the table.
     
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  7. SamFisher

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    Sure they can trade him.

    Anyway - Draymond opt in is a bad decision for him.

    He can get as much and more guaranteed by opting out. What if he opts in and gets hurt? This is probably his last non MLE or vet minimum contract.

    Tons of bad blood related to $ and contracts, declining, perpetually aggrieved player who always believes he's underpaid, outrageous 9 figure luxury tax payment - not really necessary to overthink this.

    This season is very likely to be Draymond's last ride, and it's probably 10x more likely than Middleton leaving.
     
  8. VooDooPope

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    This is akin to someone suggesting we sign the Mailman or Stockton back in the day. Puke! No Thanks!
     
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    Punching his teammates could be his way of grounding JP's air. Thompson had hinted on this during one of his interviews. Anyway, I find you're too biased against Draymond and that's understandable. Rockets suffered enough.
     
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    Draymond knows KPJ would stab him.
     
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    Are you actually trying to excuse him for punching his teammate?

    Who the **** is Draymond to be trying to 'ground" somebody when he has failed to be grounded.

    I am not biased by Draymond I would like him on my team in a heartbeat if he was cheaper and younger, but he is not, and he still can't control his temper, just imagine if KPJ had done half the **** Draymong has done.
     
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    At least he would be grounded.
     
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    One week no Nintendo.
     
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    It would’ve been worst if it happened to
    One of our players becauee they would’ve fought back.

    Can’t do that to Jalen Green(he the franchise player cornerstone)

    can’t do it to KPj(he’ll fight back or hit him first). Same with Tate, KJ, Jabari , and Eason.

    Maybe he can get the same result if he does it to Joe Dirt by I don’t really Know Mathews background like that.
     
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    A person like Draymond Green would likely go after Tyty Washington, he's a fake tough guy.
     
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    Draymond....we do not need him...no...no....no

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  17. JayZ750

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    Yeah its an interesting one - if i was him i have no idea at this point what i'd do. Next year isn't the greatest FA class, and even if its like a 4 year, $70 million deal which is obviously way less per year than the $27 he could get, its obviously way more guaranteed money. Conversely, he doesn't really get injured, and as long as he's on that GSW team with Steph and decent role players, his play and value are probably going to be around where they are right now, so why not opt in, get the $27, and THEN get the 4 year, $70 million deal??

    I don't really see how they trade him though. They'd need a replacement for sure, so trading at the deadline would be odd, then in the offseason they will be waiting on him to exercise or not his PO, and if he does, who wants Draymond for 1 year....

    ACTUALLY, Draymond for 1 year at $27 is maybe the one scenario where i WOULD take him on the Rockets... but im not trading anything meaningful at all for him.
     
  18. jiggyfly

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    Why would you take him for 1 year at 27 million on the rockets?

    How does that help the rebuild?

    Do you think he would be good with the team especially trying to get a new contract.
     
  19. JayZ750

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    Because they need to be good next year. The FA class next year is meh. But they have a lot of cap space.

    It gives you a 1 year look at him, see if it works/doesn't. If it doesn't it will be because of culture more than skills, and it shouldn't prevent them from making another jump. He would be on a new team, in the last year of an opted in contract, HAVING to prove it somewhere new.

    It's like a backup... wouldnt be my first choice, but if my option is to sign PJ Washington or trade for Draymond on an expiring i probably chose the later.
     
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    Why do they need to be good next year?

    Just spending cap because you have leads you to becoming Charlotte or even worse The Knicks and Draymond is not a difference maker type of player especially at his age he has to go to a specific situation to be a plus and that situation is a team that can hide him on offense he would be a huge liability on a team that's average at 3 point shooting.

    Why is the option either PJ Washington or Draymond anyway? Neither of those guys really move the needle.
     

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