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Trump Grifts, Loans, and Investigations

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by deb4rockets, Aug 22, 2020.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    There is a domestic emolument clause.
    Article II Section 1
    "The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be encreased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them."
    This is widely understood that the President shall take no other compensation than what Congress has determined is the salary.

    I see you edited the original post.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You say it's understood as that but he isn't challenged kon that because his business is providing a service while the clause reads as accepting gifts
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    An "Emolument" isn't just a gift. It's a financial profit from office.
    e·mol·u·ment
    /əˈmälyəmənt/
    Learn to pronounce

    noun
    FORMAL
    1. a salary, fee, or profit from employment or office.
      "the directors' emoluments"
     
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  4. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Profiting as in corruption. As in I give you this because I'm president and can if you give me this.

    His business is providing a service that hast to be paid for. There is an argument that he is going out his way for the government is have to use a hotel but not just for staying in his properties in the normal course of business
     
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    @rocketsjudoka

    Why even attempt to debate here? The guy is obviously trolling.
     
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  6. rocketsjudoka

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    I'm stuck in hurry up and wait mode for work.
     
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  7. rocketsjudoka

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    He's not going out of his way to have government stay at his hotels. Further this isn't just about compensation for use of property, such as getting compensated for miles when driving to a project site for work, but about PROFITING from it. As noted there are policies regarding the per diem compensation for Secrete Service. Trump properties are charging 5 times more than those policies. As President he has the power to determine where he stays and what the executive branch pays for things like that. Under the definition above that is profiting from the office.
     
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    What policies about per diem? I'm not going to defend the excessive charges, I'm saying I don't care. It's still a drop in the bucket for the government and it's not that much money for Trump
     
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    again, you need to stop publicizing your willful ignorance!

     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You're right, every American knows this:rolleyes:
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    This could go in a lot theads but confirms what a lot of people suspected why Trump wasn't indicted in the Stormy Daniels situation even though Michael Cohen did prison time for it while Trump signed the check.

    SDNY prosecutors felt it was too politically fraught to charge Trump even after he left office. It wasn't how strong or weak the case was but politics.
     
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    more corroboration, with more details, from this new book

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    Berman had previously volunteered to work for the Trump campaign; Trump's first AG, Jeff Sessions named Berman as US Attorney for SDNY after orange hair had fired Preet Bharara

    in his book, Berman shows that under Trump, Main Justice was a haven for lackeys all too willing to do the big guy’s bidding. He accuses Trump of weaponizing the justice department, pushing it to prosecute his critics and enemies while sparing his friends.

    After Cohen's guilty plead on the hush payments to Stormy Daniels, SDNY had forwarded its 40-page summary describing the payments and all parties involved. Main Justice ordered SDNY to delete all references to individual 1, reducing the summary to 19 pages. Also that SDNY was not to do any investigation on the hush payments without the approval from main justice
     
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    The New York Attorney General's office released footage on Tuesday of the deposition of former President Donald Trump from the summer of 2022.





    Donald Trump invoked his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination Wednesday during a deposition before lawyers from New York Attorney General Letitia James' office in its probe into the Trump Organization's business practices.
     
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    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum

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    Fun fact from my research: that poor Stormy girl was born with no gag reflex. So dangerous and sad.
     
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    https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/official-trump-for-president-2024.308706/page-71#post-14548374

    Federal investigators examining Trump Media for possible money laundering

    New York prosecutors expanded criminal inquiry of company last year
    and examined acceptance of $8m with suspected Russian ties​


    The first $2m payment to Trump Media came in December 2021 when the company was on the brink of collapse after the planned merger with DWAC – that
    would have unlocked millions for the company – was delayed when the SEC opened an inquiry into whether the arrangement broke regulatory rules.

    Trump Media needed a bridge loan to keep the company afloat. But it struggled to get financing until DWAC’s chief executive Patrick Orlando sourced a $2m loan wired from
    Paxum Bank registered in Dominica, according to the wire transfer receipt reviewed by the Guardian.

    The wire transfer identified Paxum Bank as the beneficial owner, although the promissory note identified an entity called ES Family Trust as the lender. Two months later,
    an unexpected second $6m payment arrived in Trump Media’s account from ES Family Trust, the transfer receipt showed.

    In both instances, Orlando declined to provide details about the true identity of the lenders or the origin of the money to Trump Media executives,
    Trump Media’s since-ousted co-founder turned whistleblower Will Wilkerson recounted in an interview.

    Though the two payments to Trump Media ostensibly came from two separate entities – first Paxum Bank and second ES Family Trust – the trustee of ES Family Trust,
    a person called Angel Pacheco, appears to have simultaneously been a director of Paxum Bank.

    The Russian connection, as being examined by prosecutors in the US attorney’s office for the southern district of New York, centers on a part-owner of Paxum Bank –
    an individual named Anton Postolnikov, who appears to be a relation of Putin ally Aleksandr Smirnov.

    Smirnov, who heads the Russia-controlled maritime company Rosmorport, worked in the Central Office of the Russian government until 2017. Before that, Smirnov was
    the First Deputy Minister of Justice of Russia until 2014, and for most of Putin’s first two terms as president, Smirnov served in the executive office of the president.​
     
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    Indictment incoming
     
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    Pete Strzok? That name sounds familiar ...

     

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