So we're about to make a trade? Thats why this deal happened? Nahh not this year, but maybe next right? Or the next? Or whenever the outcome lines up with the opinion? SMH.
..but spending more helps a lot more than not. If the Astros were spending as much as the Dodgers, Springer would be the Astros CF and Freeman would be the Astros 1B. For basketball, it helps to have a core together before going over the cap as you don't have to depend on salary matching trades to acquire stars or draft luck. I'd say the KPJ extension is a very good sign on the long term outlook the team has on KPJ along with the young guys in general.
His agents job is to look at the landscape of free agency ahead of time. Put out feelers on behalf of his client from teams around the league who will have cap money to spend to gauge interest. As has been stated countless times, the money and more importantly the limited number of teams with that money to spend in free agency after this season didn’t look too good for a young RFA with promise but still question marks hoping to get paid big money. The fact that the majority of the teams with cap money to spend are in full rebuild mode only likely further made the market weaker for KPJ. I would have to imagine that was the biggest reason this particular deal was agreed to. It was likely his best and only shot at an avenue to earning the big money he wanted and he gets a chance to earn it for a team he wants to play for. I guarantee you Brunsons agent essentially knew without question during last season when he was still contractually employed by Dallas that there was going to be a fat contract in NY just waiting for him to sign once the season ended. If KPJ and his agent thought for sure a 3-4 year, 15-20 mil per year(or more as some predicted after a breakout year) fully guaranteed deal totaling 45-80 mil would be waiting for him from someone in RFA then there is absolutely no reason for him to accept what is essentially right now only a 1 year 15.9 million guarantee.
@King1 LOl what? he got almost 16 million dollars guaranteed for one year, and you think that's very limited options when they did not need to pay him anything extra? Your hate is making you irrational. When your options are very limited you don't get offered guaranteed money 3 times your old salary.
Whatever stokes your ego! Obviously working on the assumption that KPJ doesnt show any improvement at all this season right? I didnt know we had so many agents here!
even if we just talk about what he could make here, there’s no way the Rockets are offering this same deal next offseason if he balled out and had no issues, and all it takes is 1 dumb team out there I can’t see him playing well, having no issues, and the Rockets a year from now are saying “Here’s your 15 mil guaranteed. We can cut u at any time, but before u go, hold this Team Option in the final year too.”
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Calm down. Take a few deep breaths. Slowly count to 10. In the post I quoted of yours, you said: He was under contract!! That might be why there wasnt "any interest elsewhere" I brought up CP3 because he was under contract as well but still had a market. Plenty of players under contract garner interest from other teams. It's normal for that to happen. That's all. There's nothing more to it. I wasn't trying to subtly imply a KPJ trade is impending. I was just responded directly to the post of yours that I quoted.
Dude. Is that where these talks are at? Comparing the market value of one of the best PGs in league history to a troubled 4th year player? REally?
Let’s go get Conleys 22mil expiring to mentor these boys next season I’m good with Conley & Gordon being the only money spent
No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Calm down. Take a few deep breaths. Slowly count to 10. After that, re-read my post, where I said: "Plenty of players under contract garner interest from other teams. It's normal for that to happen." I don't know why you're interpreting my posts in the most adversarial way possible. I'm not trying to score a win over you or anything. I'm just trying to talk about actual things that have actually happened.
Would have preferred to wait, but KPJ agreeing to Rocket friendly structure is great. I’m still uncertain about KPJ being a long term member of the rockets core but this contract gives both sides wiggle room.
Im not making any assumptions. This isn’t even about what I think of him as a player. It’s trying to logically figure out why such a peculiar and unusual contract was agreed to. It is a fact that KPJ just agreed to what amounts to a 1 year guaranteed deal of 15.9 million. Why would he do this if he himself expected a breakout year and was expecting for much more guaranteed money to be rolling in from Houston or one of the handful of teams with cap money to spend? It makes logical sense that the market for him was weak for the obvious reasons listed. He has shown promise but not enough for his own team to fully commit big to. The teams with projected cap money next off-season are almost all in full rebuild mode and likely not interested in tying up big money in cap space when they just want to tank.
Either your price, my terms or your terms, my price. KPJ picked his price and Stone got his terms. This does seem like a rather revolutionary structure for the NBA. It's actually much better for the player than some seem to think. More deals like this will eliminate those odd deals like Steph Curry signed. An mvp candidate making pennies while scrubs are making more - all because of an injury history. He would have been happier with less guaranteed money but a bigger deal that reflects his talent and potential. Rockets were smart to get a deal done here, with all the other big names signing extensions. If KPJ balled out this year, he could have gotten a near max offer from a desperate team with few other free agent options.
Honestly, that's a great way to put it. KPJ probably wanted 20 mil per year, and Stone wanted protection.
True. I think the piece that came out last week with quotes from other front offices telling Houston to get rid of him might have been a nail in the coffin for this extension. Double impact: others looking down on him, while highlighting just how much Houston believes in him by spending all the resources in him, playing time and patience. Contract is awesome. A definite win IMO.
