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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Amiga

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    1- Covid vaccines were tested for safety and efficacy.
    2- With the original strains, it was 95% effective at preventing infection, which likely means it also stops a lot of transmissions.
    3- Real-world data for the early strains confirmed it does prevent a lot of transmissions.

    "Get vaccinated for others" was correct.

    4- With the new variants, it is no longer anywhere near 95% effective at preventing infection, but it's not ZERO %. "Get vaccinated for others" is still true today. Vaccination reduces your chance of infection and when you do get infected, your severity and duration of infection. That should reduce the chances of transmission.
     
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    No, it was always for oneself. The mandates were never correct.
     
  3. DFWRocket

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    If you don't get it (because you are vaccinated) you can't spread it. The vaccine was 95% effective at keeping you from getting the original strain. Therefore, mass vaccination keeps transmission rates low.
    Mass vaccination also keeps variants from forming..this is why most variants originated in low vaccination areas.

    Vaccination was always for the good of the many.


    I'm not a fan of the government mandate. However, private companies absolutely have the right to mandate vaccination for employees. Especially in healthcare.
     
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    No it didn't. You are making a circular argument. People who are vaccinated are still getting it (I'm triple vaccinated and got it. Albert Bourla got it - twice. Joe Biden got it. Etc.) There will always be new strains. So the argument "it worked against the original strain" (which is debatable in itself) was at the very least very short-lived. Short-lived enough that no mandate ever made sense, and that the argument "vaccination is for others" was always wrong.

    Whether they have the right can be debated. But it is definitely counter-productive, especially in healthcare, where there is already a scarcity of healthcare workers.
     
  5. tinman

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    Yup I got vaccinated for myself
    Not for random fat dude who doesn’t like Korean food
     
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  6. Amiga

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    Was talking about vaccination, not mandates

    for self is also for others

    imagine that dead father that would still be here today for his kids
     
  7. tinman

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    @basso
    @J.R.
    Michael Jackson wrote a song about this
    It’s called
    Man in the Mirror
     
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  9. cdastros

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    The more people that get vaccinated the less the virus is transmitted.
     
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    the data does not support this claim
     
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    I've had it three times now, and by far the worst experience was after I'd had all three shots.

    I'm on the fence about getting a second booster this winter. got my flu shot tho, and am now recovering from a week long cold of some sort that's been worse than any of my covid infections, confirming that in the age of flu and covid vaccines, bad colds are still a thing.
     
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    I won't get another (4th!) shot unless I am forced to do so to be able to travel.
     
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    I just got back from a week long trip to the opposite coast. travel is overrated imo.
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

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    see my user name lol

    Also, need to travel for work...
     
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  18. No Worries

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    Your casual ignorance of how the military works is fascinating.

    Sarge: Take that hill.

    Grunt: I am not feeling it today, maybe tomorrow.
    or
    Grunt: Sorry, it goes against my deeply held religious beliefs ... about this hill. Perhaps you could suggest another hill?
    or
    Grunt: I am still researching the science about that particular hill. I am not seeing much on stormfront.com.
    or
    ...

     
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    I personally got vaccinated for myself, I am sure we will hear about things that were simply missed or wrong, the world was in such a rush to get it out as millions were dying, I fully expect we will find things to do better the next time something this horrendous happens. Its just like the masks and they went back and forth about its effectiveness, it was new to everyone and as hypothesis turn to facts, things can change. I am fully vaccinated and never contracted it but I have collogues and family members that got it after being vaxxed but the symptoms in all but one friend were mild, the other was a colleague here at work who had underlying symptoms and was out for 2 months
     

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