How important is the dossier to the investigations into Russian interference? In late 2016, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) passed the dossier to FBI investigators, who were by then probing possible coordination between the Trump campaign and Moscow. I would not say it has nothing to do with the investigation when you have the dossier sent to the FBI ..fusion GPS was the birth preceding the dossier.
Literally read your quote dude. They were already looking. What is it you think investigators do when they investigate a crime? They ask questions. If someone says well "rumor on the street is XXXXXX", its not evidence. It is a data point or a lead. Perfectly normal. Fusion was doing oppo research on Trump in the Republican primaries. Perfectly normal. Clinton takes over the funding as Trump was now her opponent as the primaries were done. Perfectly normal. Fusion / Steele collect rumors. Perfectly normal. Buzzfeed leaks it. Could it have been given to them by the Clinton campaign? Sure. Perfectly normal. Steele sends it too US and British intelligence services, because it is the lead generation portion of intelligence gathering, and he thought it might be valuable to them. Perfectly normal. The FBI is like whoa interesting, but we can't verify any of this, so it isn't all that valuable. The end. The rights obsession with this stupid dossier is dumb. Other than being chuckle worthy because of the alleged pee tapes, it was irrelevant. It was never the basis for any investigation. It was never evidence of a crime. Even if you take the ABSOLUTE worst case scenario, in which it was completely made up and the FBI started an investigation because of it....it still doesn't matter because the trump campaign actually did collude with Russia.
That’s the point …it was dumb. Why the blatant made up information and mis truths ? Going back to the Durham report we realize investigators do a lot of dumb things apparently and they shouldn’t what was the point of the dossier report besides candy mountain for Charlie?
Here’s what we actually know Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation did not find sufficient evidence that President Donald Trump’s campaign coordinated with Russia to influence the United States’ 2016 election. the end.
True they did not. They also did find 10 incidences of obstruction of justice related to that investigation.
Which is pretty clearly why they couldn't find criminal evidence. When you obstruct justice... yeah... it can be hard for prosecutors to get the evidence they need to convict. That's why that's ALSO a crime.
Who is John Durham? I think we can conclusively answer that now. He was a politically appointed counsel to start and maintain the false narrative that the Russian investigation was a witch hunt. Trump, through Barr, did accomplish that goal. As for actual result that matter to justice, he failed. After 3 years of investigation and promises of uncovering "the crime of the century", he ended up with 3 charges. One pleaded guilty to altering an email and was sentenced to probation. One was acquitted of lying to the FBI. The other trial (also charged with lying to the fbi) is on hold as the defendant has asked the judge to throw out the case for lack of evidence.
so says one who has been silent on Trump's lie that he will release his tax returns Trump;s 5-yr lie that Obama is not a US born citizen? Trump's lie that TEd Cruz's father was involved w the JFK assasination Trump's lie that election fraud / voting machines the irony is rich
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc...-t-have-russiagate-dirt-trump-wanted-n1298905 the grand jury Durham convened to hear evidence has expired and that he has no plans to call another. For all the time and energy that have gone into his investigation of the Russia investigation, there is precious little to show for it.
Nope. “Collusion” wasn’t found but the Trump campaign did share information with Kremlin backed associates. Lots of globalists in the Trump campaign with ties to the Kremlin.
I actually don’t mind Durham’s investigation and will agree with @ROXRAN that we should hold DOJ accountable. Durham appeared to do his job professionally and not exceed his purview like the late Ken Starr did. What I don’t agree with is that this shows that the FBI is completely biased. Out of an agency with thousands of people that he found problems with fewer people than I can count on my hand shows that overall the DoJ and FBI are acting lawfully.
If Trump was an actual Russian agent you don't think it would be wroth $1 million to know? He certainly did hundreds of millions, if not billions or trillions, of dollars worth of damage to the US, looted hundreds of millions for his family, etc My only objection is that the bounty on him wasn't higher. Like, if you gave punkass Jared a bilion dollars to put Trump away in 2016 for his tax fraud crimes, I might totally entertain it!
So let me get this straight. The FBI had the dossier and said we don't know if it is true, then they tried to corroborate it to see if it is true, and were willing to spend money to do so. Oh my god, what a huge scandal, the FBI WAS INVESTIGATING POTENTIAL CRIMES?!
Eventually they said screw the corroboration and filed for the the FISA warrant anyway. I guess it did save them to some $$ in the grand of scheme of things.
Nope. Thats not how it works. You don't get warrants after you prove a crime, you get warrants by presenting a case that what would be found with the surveillance would prove the crime. Here is a copy of the FISA Warrant (renewal), Keep in mind, this loser was already being monitored. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/FISA Warrant Application for Carter Page.pdf First the FBI references Papadopolous who was bragging to a foreign government about Russian offering the Trump campaign info on Clinton. The FBI references Steele who is source #1, who references his own sub sources, who the FBI recognized as a credible foreign intelligence information broker, whom they had used in the past. They even reference sub sources that Steele was using. They also had a second source (#2) who recorded Steele saying he had "longstanding constructive relationship with the Russians, going back, throughout my life" and he was associated with a Russian funded think tank with a near unlimited budget to presumably facilitate. So let me make it plain as day, excluding any of the Steele nonsense: The FBI had direct evidence of a member of Trump campaign bragging they had intel from Russia. (Papadopoulos - page 9, bottom of paragraph) The FBI had direct evidence of another member of Trumps campaign bragging about having ties to Russia and Russia funded organizations. (Page - page 27, Section V) As such, they made a case, to monitor Page, as they absolutely should have done. There is zero scandal in this.
You are leaving out what they actually put in the FISA warrant application which was only partially relying on Dossier intelligence. Please stop being dishonest and pushing pro-Trump conspiracy theories that continue to radicalize Trump supporters, and threaten our country with violence.
