Above all, while defending our own vital interests, nuclear powers must avert those confrontations which bring an adversary to a choice of either a humiliating retreat or a nuclear war. To adopt that kind of course in the nuclear age would be evidence only of the bankruptcy of our policy -- or of a collective death-wish for the world. - JFK one of your heroes, I presume, @Deckard?
Aren't you one of those criticizing incrementalism and pushing for a much more heavily arming Ukraine so they can crush Russia in Ukraine?
Elon Musk Spoke to Putin Before Tweeting Ukraine Peace Plan: Report (vice.com) Elon Musk spoke directly with Russian President Vladimir Putin before tweeting a proposal to end the war in Ukraine that would have seen territory permanently ceded to Russia, it has been claimed. In a mailout sent to Eurasia Group subscribers, Ian Bremmer wrote that Tesla CEO Musk told him that Putin was “prepared to negotiate,” but only if Crimea remained Russian, if Ukraine accepted a form of permanent neutrality, and Ukraine recognised Russia’s annexation of Luhansk, Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia. According to Bremmer, Musk said Putin told him these goals would be accomplished “no matter what,” including the potential of a nuclear strike if Ukraine invaded Crimea, which Russia annexed in 2014. Bremmer wrote that Musk told him that “everything needed to be done to avoid that outcome.” Last week, Musk posted essentially the same points on Twitter, although he suggested that the referendums in the annexed territories slammed as sham votes by Ukraine and the West be redone under supervision by the United Nations. ... Tesla and Musk have been contacted for comment.
Musk becoming the first person ever convicted of a Logan Act violation would make a good season finale. Edit: i know it's last week's news but Musk advising that we all sign off on Russia being allowed to annex territory it: unlawfully invaded, reduced to rubble, committed various war crimes in, and can't even hold and is being driven out of makes him look like a total dope. Get a brain, morans level stuff.
there's still an exit path; Russia now likely thinks they can use NSNW w/o triggering a NATO response in kind.
My favorite 4d chess conspiracy theory is that Musk did all of this on purpose to get the US government to block the TWTR deal on national security grounds. But in reality, this is all Dennis Rodman's fault. He normalized the idea that celebrity narcissists can cosplay as diplomats.
That doesn’t match with JFK’s quote. What you’re advocating is either a humiliating retreat or all out defeat for Russia.
