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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Francis3422, Dec 10, 2021.

  1. Tom Bombadillo

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    Currently, everyone on our team would get played off the court in the playoffs. They are all babies.

    For team-building purposes, with a player as gifted in isolation and passing as Sengun, I'd rather see us invert the offense and run something more Adelman/Princeton-esque. For me, If you have the tools for it, it is the best way to win in the playoffs If you don't have a Lebron/Harden/Luka.

    I don't see KPJ or JG or Jabari ever being able to control the tempo to compete with the top dogs of tempo control. KPJ-centric P&R is a waste of our time. GOOD BYE Jalen Green in FA If it continues.
     
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    I give up. Some of you just don’t get it
     
  3. Tom Bombadillo

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    Because it is a preseason game, and we are looking to develop playoff-winning habits.

    The Rockets can probably look pretty good running and gunning with a rim-running squad like SF3/Cat/Cato. Is that the best way forward to build a contender? IMO, that's a negative.
     
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    Ok, replace Green and Porter with any elite ball handling wings on good teams.

    Devin Booker and Chris Paul.
    Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown
    Curry and Poole or Thompson.
    Holiday Middleton and/or Giannis
    Harden & Maxey

    They all play with big men who.

    Defend, block shots, rebound, dive hard, catch the ball in traffic up high, even some who hit the occasional 3

    I can't really name a single Sengun type regular starter who does none of those things. Maybe Domantas Sabonis. That's it otherwise.
     
  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    No worries Bradda. At the end of the day I love ya Rockets brethren. I just disagree with whatever you get, and I apparently don't.
     
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  6. maj21

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    Sengun’s archetype is not playable!! He’s not jokic, but even his defensive limitations hurts Denver in the playoffs. Luckily, he’s a 2 time MVP that’s elite offensively.
     
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    Those day's are gone. Guess what, I miss them too. Tossing the ball into the post and letting your center go to work. Denver is an aberration based on an exceptional talent in Jokic. Alpi is not Jokic now, maybe one day he will reach that talent level but centering the offense around him now is not a good idea. Say what you will about the playoffs, things do slow down into more of a half court game, but the last few champions GSW, Phoenix, Lakers aren't running heavy post offenses. Their running ISO's, PNR, and pick and pops...
     
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    True, we’re not always gonna agree on things lol
     
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    Playoffs? The hell are you even talking about, what playoff winning habits in the preseason.

    Green and KPJ were shooting like 100 percent from the field in the first quarter from dribble handoffs and creating a bunch of open looks for everyone. How is that not good winning habits.

    Only idiots would force the ball into the low post and slow down the offense when playing the perimeter was clearly working
     
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  10. Tom Bombadillo

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    Our offense would be unique, just as Sengun is unique. Also, these teams you listed don't have a potentially generational defender like Jabari Smith in flanking.

    Let's also not forget that Sengun is a baby. If you really think that Sengun won't have the ability to defend or rebound, then we really are on different wavelengths. If I thought that he could never defend or rebound at a playoff level, I'd also not want to run things through him.
     
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    Exactly! Imagine if we had bari and EG to space the floor. It would’ve been deadly! Our backcourt were lighting it up on great efficiency and people are mad bc Sengun wasn’t getting post ups. It’s like some care more about Sengun than the team
     
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    I think in general, getting those dribble handoffs through Sengun as an offensive hub is the way to go. KPJ and JG can play rec league ball and look good doing it, sometimes. I will enjoy it, but I am a bit weary of Sengun not being central to our offensive plans. (KPJ higher in the pecking order?)

    For sure you can build playoff-winning habits in the preseason. That is the best place to do it. It just depends what you think playoff-winning habits are.
     
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  13. Tom Bombadillo

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    Sengun certainly isn't Jokic. That is not the case I am making.

    Princeton offense-ish that focuses on optimizing the guards through a big, not a post-up offense. (Though that will be needed in the playoffs too...)

    Remember, the roll man dies in the playoffs.
     
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    Sengun has some severe limitations athletically, just like Luis Scola he is going to be a good NBA player but will stop short of ever being great.

    DD
     
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    didnt I just say if you aren't giving Sengun the ball there is no point in Sengun being out there? I just said that. If you're depending on Sengun to only get rebounds and defense then there is no point. You stop.

    this is just not a game sengun was going to excel in. This was a Jabari at the 5 game.
     
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    Y'all are really making it difficult to work from home, FYI. :D
     
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    I see what you’re saying. Remember, we still need more talent on this roster. Sengun is just too hard to build around. We can’t sacrifice other players to please a guy that may not be a starter in this league
     
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    There are going to be those big man games where sengun going to have to show up for real like philly and denver etc. We're acting like the Rockets have to play only one way all the time. Clint was crushing Denver and Milly, but he was un playable against the Warriors. Some matchups for Sengun is not going to be ideal all the time.

    plus hes still a child.
     
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    They don't have potential generational defenders they have fully realized ones mostly in the spot that Sengun plays.
    Sure, Clint capela against peak Draymond Green didn't work when he took away the roll and lob and the dunker spot - but you're arguably talking about the greatest defensive player of the era who was able to optimize his strategy against that one play

    Sengun's limits are way different in kind.
     
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    Sengun= Disgusting, just like he was last season! Y
     

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