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Alperen is our best player.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Francis3422, Dec 10, 2021.

  1. DreamShook

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    Sengun without Bari is not going to be great.
     
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  2. Tom Bombadillo

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    Sengun without ball is not going to be great. Rockets also not be great.
     
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    i agree. if you arent going to get him the ball sometimes there's no point for him to be out there.
     
  4. SamFisher

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    Exactly that's why he should not be starting.

    Green and Porter need a big man who can do 3-5 of these things well.

    stretch the floor,
    defend
    block shots,
    Rebound
    Dive to the rim and catch lobs.

    These are all areas where Sengun has a lot of work to do.
     
  5. KingCheetah

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    Is Sengun an NBA starter?
     
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    Pretty much nailed it.
     
  7. Tom Bombadillo

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    Or, just give him the ball, and everyone eats.

    Prioritizing KPJ as a ballhandler is a mistake. Sengun is light-years ahead of him in terms of efficiency and creativity, especially when the playoffs roll around and the roll man is eliminated. KPJ should be running around off the ball like Jam Murray does, like Steph Curry does.

    You have to have a lot of faith in the creative ability of KPJ to want a lob C, IMO. For the playoffs and for our development, an inverse offense that veers into Adelman's Princeton is the way to go.
     
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    Please stop. Even if Alpi is not having a great game offensively he can still play defense and grab boards. He did neither well tonight and was straight up being pushed around by an older and less skilled big in Dedmond. It's one game and the odds are that a player with his talent will have more good games than bad, but tonight all of questions regarding whether he is the right fit at center for what the Rockets are trying to build resurfaced.

    If anything it just confirmed in my mind that we need a weak side rim protector (we may have that in Jabari) and rebounder next to him.
     
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    We were scoring the ball just fine. Sengun in the playoffs would get played off the court. What do you guys not get about that?!
     
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    I want to see how Sengun plays with Jabari for like half a season before writing him off a starter.
     
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    Sengun can be better than both kpj and green. Just trade him if you want to cater only to their needs.
     
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    The Nikola Jokic offense is built around him being an elite outside shooter and a good finisher in addition to being a good passer.
     
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    Wut?
     
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    I thought Silas said that they were going to get Sengun the ball with PnR.
     
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    No need to be cheeky. Why misquote me too?

    When the lob threat gets taken off the table, do you want a KPJ-controlled offense?

    Or would you rather run a Princeton through a more efficient isolation option? Something closer to Denver, closer to Adelman? For me, for the playoffs, I prefer the second option. KPJ is tougher off the ball.
     
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    This isn't about catering to any ones needs. It's about the Rockets style of play and how he fits. Sengun will have a place in this offense but the offense is not centered around him and nor should it bit (sorry he's just not that kind of talent). He's good and will get better but I bet this won't be the only night that he struggles (as every player does from time to time), but he must find a way to impact that game if he doesn't have the ball in his hands. Tonight he didn't but I have hope that he'll figure it out.
     
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    It's not about what Porter needs. It's about what is better for the team. And it will be better for the team to put the ball in Sengun's hands than in Porter's hands.

    A bad game by Sengun tonight does not change that.
     
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    CORRECT.

    Alperen Sengun is different.

    There are elements of Denver's offense, however, that would work really well here. Better than a KPJ-driven offense I think. There are some things you can do with Al-P's quickness too, and his foul drawing abilities. I believe Sengun should be used as sort of a first-down running back.

    Work on establishing a post presence early. It is a good habit for developing a playoff team, and I believe Sengun can score with the best of them down there. I think he could run a damn Princeton-ish offense with the best of them too. Everyone eats and KPJ's murderous dribbles go away, and his efficiency goes up.

    (See preseason game 1)
     
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    It was a fast pace game. Why would we put the ball in Sengun’s hands when we’re out and running? Why slow the game down like that? Most of the guys were impacting the game in other ways. Sengun offers nothing if he doesn’t have the ball.
     
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    They ran a few in the first period.

    The Heat didn't switch and Dedmon stuck on him and the guards were hitting everything outside anyway.

    The one time he got the ball on the roll underneath he got blocked by Dedmon.

    Doesn't seem like a fruitful strategory.

    Neither Green nor Porter are Harden level passers and Sengun isn't a great target either.
     

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