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transgendering the kids

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Sep 21, 2022.

  1. LondonCalling

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    https://teens.webmd.com/teens-plastic-surgery


    According to the American Society of Plastic and Reconstructive Surgeons (ASPS), in 2020, nearly 230,000 cosmetic surgeries and nearly 140,000 non-invasive cosmetic procedures were performed on teens ages 13-19. Some of the most common types of plastic surgery teens choose include nose jobs and correction of protruding ears, too-large breasts, asymmetrical breasts, and scarring caused by acne or injuries. A lot of procedures go unreported, though, including those performed in dermatology offices and spas.

    Where is the outrage over this then?

    Or this?

    https://www.littlerockcosmeticsurge...ou-need-to-know-if-your-son-has-gynecomastia/

    First, know that if you or your son suffers from gynecomastia, he’s not alone. Gynecomastia is actually very common in teens, currently thought to affect up to 69% of males age 10 to 19. This is due to fluctuating hormones; many boys produce excess estrogen during puberty, causing some breast development. Usually, the breasts flatten out as hormones even out and puberty ends, but that doesn’t make it less distressing for affected teens. It’s natural for teens with gynecomastia to want to get rid of the “man boobs” ASAP—and if you’re a parent, you may wonder what’s the best path and how you can help.
     
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    o_O You're looking more and more unhinged here. :confused:
     
  3. LondonCalling

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    Eh, I can share our mutual appreciation for Norm MacDonald and even trans jokes or gay jokes he's done. I really am not out to silence anybody. Again I just think it's weird for the same posters for years now, including yourself to obsess over teenage genitals. Like you dig up Twitter posts and stuff to support your beliefs on this. I don't. It's just not something I think about because it's not my life. I don't get genital piercings personally or gauges or getting your ******* tattooed or bleaching your ******* or any of that stuff but I dunno, I don't really give a **** if others do that to themselves. It's their body to do with as they please, just the same way as watching an alcoholic I'd consider a friend wither away from their drinking or a stage 4 cancer patient that continues to smoke cigarettes during chemotherapy and radiation and doesn't improve. I don't get it personally, but I don't have to get it in order to respect their own bodily autonomy. Why this same courtesy doesn't extend to the trans community is beyond me especially when teenagers statistically augment their body in other ways that are deemed more societally permissible than simply existing as you'd prefer if you happened to be trans even though there is some overlap on the types of procedures teenagers that aren't trans get done like breast reduction and breast augmentation as well as hormone use with PEDs which is what the fuss is over in this thread for the past 3 pages. I don't get it.
     
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  4. durvasa

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    The sexual health of adolescents is first and foremost the business of their family and doctors. Particularly if the health care interventions are aligned with generally recommended care practices of the pediatric/medical establishment.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    That was a master class in interviewing
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Except that slicing and sterilization isn't happening to children.
     
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    John Stewart is the patron saint of people who scream at the TV begging an interviewer to ask the most obvious follow ups because they never do.

    He embraces our group of people. He understands our pain.
     
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    https://www.dailywire.com/news/brea...linic-pausing-transgender-surgeries-on-minors

    Except it is, see above.
     
  9. LondonCalling

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    Breast augmentation is done without "slicing" nowadays?
     
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    Do you oppose non trans teens getting breast reduction to address back pain or teenagers with asymmetrical breasts that are self conscious and get breast augmentation to address their body dysmorphia and improve their psychological health? Because statistically that occurs more often without the same taboo over it than the same overlapping healthcare procedures that trans teens wish to receive to feel more comfortable in their own body.
     
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    From the same website, the .doc for people to download:

     
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    I responded to @bobrek's post who stated that "slicing" is not happening. It is. That's all.
     
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    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28325535/

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24238576/

    It's simply not true to say that it hasn't been happening.
     
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    I mean, the pictures of it are in this thread and there are countless examples of clinics and doctors explicitly talking about mastectomies and hysterectomies on minors.

    Lefties need to make up their mind. Either it's not happening, or it is happening and that's not a bad thing.
     
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    It may or may not be a bad thing. The question is -- even if it is a "bad" thing, is it our business or not? Just because you wouldn't let your kids make that decision, doesn't mean you have a right to restrict other families from making a different decision about what's right for their kid's well-being. Conservatives seem to have no problem with this principle when it comes to vaccination, but for whatever reason the sexual development of other people's kids is a matter they feel they should have a say in.
     
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    Do you think parents should be free to let their children consume alcohol, cigarettes and mar1juana? There are plenty of rules/laws which are designed to protect children from their parents' and their own bad decisions.
     
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    Yes....


    IF those substances are approved by the largest and most well respected pediatric organizations like the American Academy of Pediatrics for child consumption. Only then I would say it's safe. I don't know honestly. Are cigs approved by those organizations for child consumption? If so than ya let them smoke a cig if the science says it's fine.
     
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    To be clear — you are comparing laws against health care access to laws against selling drugs to kids. Those rules/laws should be guided by the input of experts in the field who understand what’s at stake. No one thinks selling addictive drugs to kids is a good thing, or that kids are in danger if they don’t have access to them. Concerned citizens who think they know better than medical and mental health professionals shouldn’t be the ones to force health care restrictions on others.
     

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