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If teams are tanking for Wemby the Rockets should....?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Oct 5, 2022.

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What would you do as teams position themselves to tank for Wemby/Henderson

Poll closed Dec 7, 2022.
  1. A. Take advantage of those rolling the dice on very low odds.

    50 vote(s)
    25.9%
  2. B. Tank with them - let's take our shot too

    143 vote(s)
    74.1%
  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Jalen Green being terrible for at least the first half of last season is basically the only reason the Rockets were able to successfully tank.

    If Green picks up where he left off last season, along with KPJ doing the same and Sengun now being a starter and Jabari Smith playing like he can, the Rockets have basically no chance of a legit tank season. They could still end up in the lottery, meaning they have SOME chance, but the odds will be very much against them. They'd progress their team more by trying to win as many games as possible in the hopes that they can eek into the play in.
     
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  2. Easy

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    That just makes the NBA look bad. Maybe they'll change the lottery rule AGAIN.

    Things were so much simpler when it's just a coin flip (and we won twice in a row). :D
     
  3. Sen89

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    I think we should just focus on developing our seven 1st rounders from the last two years. It's probably not going to equal many wins regardless, but if we end up on a 25-win pace, then so be it. The lottery odds are a lot more equal than they used to be (for the top-3)

    Worst Record: 14%
    2nd Worst: 14%
    3rd Worst: 14%
    4th Worst: 12.5%
    5th Worst: 10.5%
    6th Worst: 9%

    Not sure what there isn't to be sold on. I get having Wemby at #1, he's an absolutely ridiculous talent, but Scoot is a prototypical P/R nightmare built for today's game.

    He's strong, aggressive, instinctive, shifty, competitive, and has a polished arsenal offensively (with his 3-ball still coming around, but developing at a fast rate). If you want a 27/5/7-type who can put the team on his back ala D-Rose/Ja, Scoot is your guy.
     
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  4. Joe Joe

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    On the pull the plug in December, this is kind of why I don't think the Rockets finish bottom 3. I'm guessing Utah sells off the rest of their vets soon. Some team is going to lose a player like Dame to injury, and just sell off everyone.

    What is the over/under for the 10th seed in the West, 32.5 wins?
     
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  6. DaDakota

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    THIS is the team's mindset...does that sound like tanking?

    DD
     
  7. DaDakota

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    1. Playing ONLY the developing players is not tanking, it is being smart. Taking them out when they are going good to ensure a loss is tanking.

    2. Taking advantage of other teams that give up would be perhaps taking some contract pressure away if they attach a pick, or taking a player that is helping them win, that they may want to trade away to fully commit to the tank......and we take that player.

    I am totally on board with letting the young bucks go and living with the results.....

    What I don't want to see is if we are starting to get it together and there are 20 games left we bench out players to lose the last 20....that is tanking, and IMHO will be fruitless because teams will already be tanking from the jump and will probably be out of reach in the last 20 games.

    The Spurs might win only 15 games this year.

    DD
     
  8. Believe It!

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    Have you even watched his game? Again, Sampson was great and a "unicorn" no doubt, but this kid is on another level. His athleticism at that size, his handles, crazy range beyond 3, turn around J near the 3, his fade away in different directions from the 3 etc. He's much smoother in all ways and the KID is 18. Not the same. Imagine most would agree. Especially after the "social media" put 10 exclamations on it. Sampson was great and you can still see all that on media. Compare the available footage and tell me I'm wrong.
     
  9. jcmoon

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    it may not be up to them, i think deep down most of them know they are just assets, trade chips. What else is the coach supposed to say or the players? Of course they are playing to win. But once Stone sees a trade to pounce on 3 or 4 of these guys will be gone this season.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    See that is not so easy to implement - how do you sit a player like Scoot who is playing for a new contract, that won't go well, how do you sit Green or Jabari if they are developing.....

    I think we are done....blatantly tanking.

    DD
     
  11. jcmoon

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    they are not sitting green or jabari. Scoot would be traded, look we got a free look with a second round pick. He doesn't want to sign the extension and is holding on for more money. So why should the rockets risk our entire future for him? he's restricted anyways. He is lucky we gave him a shot and started him. He is definately on the table in trade talks. We can sit him if we feel like, he's getting paid millions.
     
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    Well the problem just wouldn’t be KPJ and his agent, It would be every other player and agent in the league thinking that’s a d1ck move.
     
  13. KePoW

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    Absolutely tank. Wemby is literally a generational prospect, 1 in 20 years. And I'm a huge believer in Scoot too. I rate him as a 1 in 10 years prospect.
     
  14. jcmoon

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    who cares what they think? they'll be tanking too. KPJ didn't care about his teammates when he walked out on them last season, so why should we care? this is a business. its not fair in the corporate world either. he gets paid to play basketball. He can always sign on his extension. If he wants to bet on himself, i understand, but that doesn't mean we need to cater to him.
     
  15. Bobbythegreat

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    How do you propose doing that? You planning on benching KPJ, Green, Sengun, and Smith for the season?
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Because he can play and you don't waste time developing players that you don't want.....he is going to test RFA and the Rox will more than likely match.

    OK than Silas who is tasked with showing major improvement - or he is gone.....I don't think this is as easy as you guys think......

    DD
     
  17. KePoW

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    Haha unfortunately you can't sit them out entire season, but you can definitely alter your rotation patterns and minutes, and of course you can sit players out entire games for "rest".

    I'm not sure what the current NBA rule is on how many number of games you can do that for each player is though
     
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    Well the thing is Chet and Webanyama are so fast and so long they can close that gap in no time.
     
  19. Believe It!

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    100%
     
  20. Believe It!

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    Mr. Obvious much?

    LOL
     

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