Javier has the signs of blossoming into a legitimate ace. He needs to pitch a little deeper into games and learn to rely a little less on the fastball when it’s off…. But 5 hits per 9 innings….. 170 average against and a 1.70 era in the second half at 25 years old all are excellent indicators. Also if Verlander leaves they will spend money on a big bat and likely a reliever. If Verlander stays they will move a younger pitcher for a price controlled bat. The Astros will be fine either way.
I could easily see that rotation being the best in the American League next year. I don't fully understand all the voodoo magic and I remain a cynical lifelong Houston sports fan, but there's nothing that I trust more in the Houston sports world than the Astros' pitching program. Year after year they crank out guys and I think it's just time to trust that will continue. Hunter Brown is probably going to break out in a big way next year. I'd still pay JV a ridiculous amount of money because **** it. Crane wants to spend anyway right?
Astros really need to stop spending ridiculous amounts of money on middle relievers. They have the deepest pen in baseball.
it’s an interesting comparison to Clemens age 42 season with the stros . innings , rocket beat JV 211 to 175 . Pretty cool that JV has 1.75 ERA and 175 innings pitched . speaking of ERA , Clemens comes in strong at 1.87 . fip about equal for both guys if I recall ERA+ compares JV with a 220 to Roger with 226 . Very close again .
Regular season is one thing. To win a WS you need elite pitching. Guys who step up when it counts the most. As I've said a few times over the past couple of months, Framber wet the bed a few times last yr in the playoffs (like not even getting through two innings). Garcia as well. So I'm going to sit back and see how both of them do when it matters the most. Yes a rotation of Framber, LMJ, Brown, Javier, and Garcia no doubt can excel in the regular season. Playoffs? We know LMJ has stepped up, the other four let's sit back and see.
Either or? It would probably depend on the market. Im not sure why the Astros believed in Montero as strongly as they did when no one wanted him and failed to extend him. I know they think highly of Montero so he is someone they would likely try to resign but there are other impact arms as well.
That is a Click thing. I suspect they won’t spend much at all on the pen if they resign Verlander. Abreu will likely replace Montero in the packing order.
Framber and Garcia both had stinkers last playoffs. But both also had GREAT starts that got them to the World Series.
The game you are thinking of, Game 1 of the ALCS, he actually did make it through two, but was pulled in the third (or maybe fourth, but no later). Then, you had Garcia, Urquidy, and Greinke all removed before completing two innings, which was a first in LCS history. Given how quick the starters were pulled in the first four games (practically unheard of), and therefore the workload placed on the bullpen, it is incredible what the Astros were able to do. Say what you want about Dusty (I'm more pro-Dusty, but even I have criticized his decisions at time), but he deserves a lot of credit.
This is exactly what I want to see. Personally, I am not a fan of the idea of spending more on the bullpen this offseason. Why not? We already have Pressly, Neris, Stanek, and Abreu (who has really taken the next step) under team control next year. Maton as well (if he consistently put it all together, he belongs in that category). Assuming a 6 man rotation (which means 7 man bullpen), that is already 5/7 spots filled. I'd say Martinez has earned one of those two remaining spots, and if I had to guess, Mushinski or Taylor would get the last one (so we have a lefty). Shawn Dubin may also factor into the plans as well.
Postseason Experience Verlander Detroit 2006 ALDS2 NYY ND; 5.1 IP, 3 ER 2006 ALCS2 OAK W; 5.1 IP, 4 ER 2006 WS1 STL L; 5.0 IP, 6 ER 2006 WS5 STL L; 6.0 IP, 1 ER 2011 ALDS1 NYY ND; 1.0 IP, 1 ER 2011 ALDS3 NYY W; 8.0 IP, 4 ER 2011 ALCS1 TEX L; 4.0 IP, 3 ER 2011 ALCS5 TEX W; 7.1 IP, 4 ER 2012 ALDS1 OAK W; 7.0 IP, 1 ER 2012 ALDS5 OAk W; 9.0 IP, 0 ER 2012 ALCS3 NYY W; 8.1 IP, 1 ER 2012 WS1 SFG L; 4.0 IP, 5 ER 2013 ALDS2 OAK ND; 7.0 IP, 0 ER 2013 ALDS5 OAK W; 8.0 IP, 0 ER 2013 ALCS3 BOS L; 8.0 IP, 1 ER 2014 ALDS2 BAL ND; 5.0 IP, 3 ER Astros 2017 ALDS1 BOS W; 6.0 IP, 2 ER 2017 ALDS4 BOS W; 2.2 IP, 1 ER 2017 ALCS2 NYY W; 9.0 IP, 1 ER 2017 ALCS6 NYY W; 7.0 IP, 0 ER 2017 WS2 LAD ND; 6.0 IP, 3 ER 2017 WS6 LAD L; 6.0 IP, 2 ER 2018 ALDS1 CLE W; 5.1 IP, 2 ER 2018 ALCS1 BOS W; 6.0 IP, 2 ER 2018 ALCS5 BOS L; 6.0 IP, 4 ER 2019 ALDS1 TBR W; 7.0 IP, 0 ER 2019 ALDS4 TBR L; 3.2 IP, 4 ER 2019 ALCS2 NYY ND; 6.2 IP, 2 ER 2019 ALCS5 NYY L; 7.0 IP, 4 ER 2019 WS2 WSH L; 6.0 IP, 4 ER 2019 WS6 WSH L; 5.0 IP, 3 ER Valdez 2020 ALWC1 MIN W; 5.0 IP, 0 ER 2020 ALDS2 OAK W; 7.0 IP, 2 ER 2020 ALCS1 TBR L; 6.0 IP, 2 ER 2020 ALCS6 TBR W; 6.0 IP, 1 ER 2021 ALDS2 CWS ND; 4.1 IP, 4 ER 2021 ALCS1 BOS ND; 2.2 IP, 2 ER 2021 ALCS5 BOS W; 8.0 IP, 1 ER 2021 WS1 ATL L; L; 2.0 IP, 5 ER 2021 WS5 ATL ND: 2.2 IP, 5 ER
Postseason Experience Javier 2020 ALWC2 MIN W; 3.0 IP, 0 ER 2020 ALDS1 OAK H; 1.0 IP, 0 ER 2020 ALDS1 OAK W: 2.1 IP. 0 ER 2020 ALCS4 TBR H; 2.0 IP, 1 ER 2020 ALCS6 TBR ND; 1.0 IP, 2 ER 2021 ALDS3 CWS ND; 2.2 IP, 0 ER 2021 ALCS1 BOS ND; 2.0 IP, 0 ER 2021 ALCS4 BOS ND; 3.0 IP, 0 ER 2021 WS2 ATL H; 1.1 IP, 0 ER 2021 WS4 ATL BL; 0.1 IP, 2 ER 2021 WS6 ATL ND; 1.1 IP, 2 ER McCullers 2015 ALDS4 KCR ND; 6.1 IP, 2 ER 2017 ALDS3 BOS ND; 3.0 IP, 2 ER 2017 ALCS4 NYY ND; 6.0 IP, 1 ER 2017 ALCS7 NYY S: 4.0 IP, 0 ER 2017 WS3 LAD W; 5.1 IP, 3 ER 2017 WS7 LAD ND: 2.1 IP, 0 ER 2018 ALDS1 CLE ND; 1.0 IP, 0 ER 2018 ALDS3 CLE ND; 1.0 IP, 0 ER 2018 ALCS1 BOS H; 1.0 IP, 0 ER 2018 ALCS2 BOS ND; 0.2 IP, 0 ER 2018 ACLS4 BOS ND; 1.1 IP, 1 ER 2020 ALDS1 OAK ND; 4.0 IP, 4 ER 2020 ALCS2 TBR L; 7.0 IP, 1 ER 2020 ALCS7 TBR L; 3.2 IP, 3 ER 2021 ALDS1 CHW W; 6.2 IP, 0 ER 2021 ALDS4 CHW ND; 4.0 IP, 1 ER
Postseason Experience Garcia 2020 ALCS5 TBR ND; 2.0 IP, 0 ER 2021 ALDS3 CWS ND; 2.2 IP, 5 ER 2021 ALCS2 BOS L; 1.0 IP, 5 ER 2021 ALCS6 BOS W; 5.2 IP, 0 ER 2021 WS3 ATL L; 3.2 IP, 1 ER 2021 WS6 ATL L; 2.2 IP, 3 ER Urquidy 2019 ALDS4 TBR ND; 1.2 IP, 0 ER 2019 ALCS6 NYY H; 2.2 IP, 1 ER 2019 WS4 WSN W; 5.0 IP, 0 ER 2019 WS7 WSN ND; 0.2 IP, 0 ER 2020 ALWC2 MIN ND; 4.1 IP, 1 ER 2020 ALDS3 OAK ND; 4.1 IP, 4 ER 2020 ALCS3 TBR L; 5.0 IP, 1 ER 2020 ALCS7 TBR ND; 2.0 IP, 1 ER 2021 ALCS3 BOS L; 1.2 IP, 5 ER 2021 WS2 ATL W; 5.0 IP, 2 ER 2021 WS5 ATL W; 1.0 IP, 0 ER
@Marshall Bryant is a ALT I'm convinced, he has continually tried to get a rise in here by race baiting. It is usually ignored but now he is doubling down.
