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Elon vs Twitter update: Elon helped America win , Tesla stock through the roof

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tinman, Mar 26, 2022.

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Who is for democracy?

  1. Elon

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    57.6%
  2. Twitter

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    15.3%
  3. Chinese democracy by Guns N Roses

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    27.1%
  1. AroundTheWorld

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    In Musk we Trusk.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I'm not so sure. He's got a lot at stake in Twitter - he can't just make it a right wing haven without disenfranchising a big part of the population that drives its revenue and growth.

    I think he will work to make it genuinely better. And a lot of the "censorship" on the platform he will keep, as a lot of the stuff people are complaining about is actually threats they are making against individuals. I can't see Elon Musk protecting that under the idea of free speech given the liability issues it puts the company at.
     
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  4. tinman

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    Elon got them bots scared
     
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    I think it muzzles him to an extent.

    Eventually his narcissism will eat into his bottom line but it won't be for a lack of trying
     
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    Angry that he took the monumental L in having to buy a $44 billion investment that he doesn't want, and now has to run a shitty last-gen social network with a crappy UX

    MUSKLORDs like @AroundTheWorld @Commodore @tinman are now taking solace that Twitter CEO Parag Agrawal, having forced the world's richest man and their hero to vastly overpay for a company that he doesn't want, may soon step down.

    Because they're big Internet M-A-D at Agrawal "Beta Soy boy" for kicking out ass clown Trump and various antivax ivermectin chugging dipshits off twitter in 2020.*

    Sweet sweet revenge for the alphas in 2020, take that Parag soyboy!

    *Parag Agrawal succeeded friend-of-Elon Jack Dorsey as Twitter CEO in November 2021.
     
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  7. tinman

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    Elon rules
     
  8. SamFisher

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    Not only is he getting destroyed in court but his latest plan, if its real, is basically"im going to turn Twitter into tencent, , but in the US" - this is about as off the rack and boring as it gets. Even McKinsey couldn't come up with something that lame.

    Monetizing legacy internet apps against entrenched competitors and faster younger threats is 1) hard, and 2) extremely boring work. Like it's about 1 million times less interesting than a space company. i don't think Elon is going to found a Mars colony - but pretending to found a Mars colony is vastly more fun than trying to maximize ARPU or minimize churn.

    You wouldn't want that responsibility if you had better options, which i guess is why he realized his mistake and tried to get out of it.
     
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  9. Major

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    AtW seems to have heard the latest right-wing insult and latched on it for typical reasons. He did everything right in this - he forced Musk into a twitter-friendly agreement with no loopholes, he held firm, supported his employees, he defended his shareholders, and navigated twitter through all the drama. Pretty sure he won't mind leaving at the end of it and leaving the mess to Elon. And in all the texts, he showed he was the only one actually defending Twitter and being a normal human being. Basically, AtW is upset that he did his job like an actual professional. He prefers the bullying/insulting/mocking style of leadership, as seen with DeSantis.
     
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    You don't enjoy reading a high quality 29 post twitter thread?
     
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    the best thing Musk can do is reveal the criteria/algorithms used to suppress some viewpoints and promote others

    those are worse than outright banning, because they are nearly impossible to detect/prove
     
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    You're going to be super-disappointed learning that conservatives get banned more simply because they post more violent and other content that violates twitter's rules. And that things that get promoted have nothing to do with political persuasion. Your whole worldview may crumble soon.
     
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    At getting owned by Twitter. Whoops!
     
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    I think you’ll be disappointed….

    Your conspiracy theory ideology generates a lot of traffic and eyeballs. Same with Facebook….
     
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    This. It’s not conservative ideology but conservative violent rhetoric that is the issue.
     
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    Basically Musk lost to Twitter and will have to pay the price from the tech peak while having some of personal messages shown.

    Winning….
     
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    Not only that but he basically spent the last 6 months saying the company - that he may soon have to own and be on the hook fo- is a giant fraud and helped recruit guys like Mudge to make a big public stink about how the company is a security disaster.

    This is generally not what you do to your investments! Ask the banks who now have to sell the debt it in it.
     
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    Oh sure, once he reveals the parameters used in the recommender algorithihms (and let me tell you it's riveting stuff that has never been revealed) - Trump will be re-installed as President. I heard it from the My pillow dude
     
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    I don't care about how he behaved on the deal, I just think he is a weak leader who doesn't understand freedom of speech (similar to you and some others, so no wonder that one beta likes another beta). The former Head of Security describes a lot of the flaws in Parag's leadership. Parag was CTO before he became CEO, so he is directly responsible for a lot of the problems Twitter has. He didn't inherit them - he caused them.

    https://nypost.com/2021/12/04/new-twitter-ceo-parag-agrawal-raises-free-speech-concerns/

    https://observer.com/2022/10/twitter-ceo-parag-agrawal-elon-musk-takeover/

    Anyway - if and when the deal goes through, @Major will - as usual - have been wrong about everything, from the start. Not a surprising outcome, of course. And that never stopped him from lecturing others regardless.
     
  20. geeimsobored

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    They banned Trump from Twitter when Jack Dorsey was CEO. You're singling out Parag but he wasn't even the CEO when a lot of this happened. Its a little ridiculous to just rail on Parag Agrawal and not Jack Dorsey.

    Also a CEO has a duty to the company, not your conception of free speech. Your anger should be at Jack Dorsey who basically ran this ship into the ground and kept doubling down on a business model (ad revenue) that doesn't work with Twitter. Twitter has an operating deficit of over 2 billion a year and it can't even generate 1 billion in revenue. But all of this is at Dorsey's feet. He did a shitty job as a CEO and had years to make this a viable business and he did nothing. Twitter gives influencers and famous people a free platform to build a following and does zilch to actually monetize it. That failure falls squarely on the guy who co-founded the company and was later CEO for 6 years.

    But the idea that Agrawal is the madman behind Twitter's failures is absurd. Agrawal hasn't even been CEO for a year. Dorsey was CEO for 6 years. Agrawal ultimately executed a sale that made TWTR shareholders a lot of money. Just following the basic principle of having a fiduciary duty to shareholders, Agrawal did his job while Dorsey did not.
     
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