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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. Ottomaton

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    Who cares?

    Is this is going to be one of those things where Republicans are screaming "Bengazi!!!" for the next decade when the rest of the world has moved on and doesn't give a ****?
     
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  2. Commodore

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  3. Ottomaton

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    Can you articulate why this is such an important issue for you?

    If we all just agree to stipulate tentatively that the USA did it, will that allow you to move on?

    It's weird that Vlad genocides tens of thousands of innocent Ukranians, but the thing that really gets you hot under the collar is Gazprom's property rights.
     
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    D. Contrarian
     
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    Chance to say our leadership is bad, I assume.


    Similar to owning the Libs by human trafficking.


    Who cares about collateral damage, right? More important to score nonsensical political points.
     
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    The footage coming out of Lyman of the dead Russian soldiers is insane. Looks like scenes from a Fallout game.
     
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    If the USA did it, I applaud them. Must remove any incentive for Germany to continue to be weak ass p*****s.
     
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  9. Commodore

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    Your armchair desire to get Putin (as if there aren't plenty of other dictators on the planet) can get everyone killed.

    Anything that escalates conflict between nuclear powers (like blowing up pipelines) must be avoided.



    They said Trump would start WWIII, but he was the one following the Kennedy model of trying to deescalate conflict between nuclear powers (he would talk to Putin and Kim Jong Un).

     
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    The only way to get really ****ed in the Prisoners Dilema is to continually try and cooperate with a proven defector.
     
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    Honestly it just appears that you're aligning yourself with Trump here is being pro-Russia
     
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    As stated previously, that Kennedy quote has a terrible application to this situation.
     
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    I seriously doubt it.

    Putin may use a small scale airborne tactical nuke in Ukraine, which would unleash a united fury onto Russia like the world has never witnessed before. It would be a death sentence for Putin. Anything larger would require quite a few Russians to voluntarily kill themselves, their families, the world, on Putin's orders. Highly doubt everyone just going to fall in line for this flailing dictator.

    I have serious questions about whether Russia's nuclear arsenal even works anymore, having witnessed the garbage soviet era military arsenal featured in this war.

    If you were serious about your position, you wouldn't be broadcasting memes, like Tucker Carlson, bragging about the US potentially being responsible. You would keep your ****ing mouth shut. But it was never about the danger, was it?, it is trying to paint this huge Biden led win into a bad thing.
     
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  17. Commodore

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    cooperation and open warfare are not the only options
     
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    We are the USA, why the fk should we even consider backing down from Nuke threats? U back down once, the dictators will keep bringing it up everytime a conflict occurs. Biden backs down now, the same Commodore who proclaims nuke escalation should b avoided at all cost, will call Biden a pu$$y in a few days.

    I find it sad that Russia is getting its a$$ handed to them by Ukraine. Russia started a war and invaded Ukraine, but we should b wary of not escalating things too far to avoid a nuke war at all cost. pffttt.
     
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    I wonder why Ukraine isn't being implicated.

    The US might benefit from LNG exports, but we have production and logistics issues that will not make up for the loss of Nord stream. It just makes Germany tighter in March when their contracts and supplies start running out.

    It might even just be a case of sabotage by disgruntled russian workers disagreeing with the war.

    I mean that Baytown refinery accident looked mighty convenient for Putin last year, but nothing came out of that being sabotage. It doesn't always have to conveniently connect.
     
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    End of History Part Deux
     
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