I get that it's over your head, but that's not what happened. I was citing a specific stat and he kept wanting to talk about a different metric. I kept trying to explain to him what I was specifically citing, but all he wanted to talk about was something else while foolishly claiming it was what I was talking about. Eventually I realized I was arguing with a hopeless case and just stopped replying. No doubt he still doesn't realize what the conversation was about.
I wouldn't, at all, in any way, in any situation ever. Magic: 5 x champ, 3x MVP, 3 x finals MVP, 12 x All Star, 9 x NBA 1st team, NBA second team, All Rookie team, 4x ass leader, 2 x steal leader. Averaged 11.2 ass for his career (the majority of people struggle to average 10 for a SEASON.) Stockton: 10 x all star, 2 x first team, 6 x second team, 3x third team, 5x all defensive 2nd team, 9x ass leader, 2 x steal leader. Averaged 10.5 ass for his career. Stockton was a great player, with a great career. Choosing him over Magic though is complete insanity, they're not even remotely close in terms of impact.
How does me stating it's laughable that he's comparing KPJ to Magic have anything to do with statistics? I didn't bring up stats. No need to.
Battier is the kinda player that shows why looking at the advanced stats is important. He never averaged the 16 ppg KPJ had last year, yet was obviously a light years better player.
Is it though? One of them has 5 rings, the other has none. One of them has 3 MVPs and 3 Finals MVPs, the other has none. Are you deliberately trying to look foolish, or is there some other reason you're trying to prop Stockton up over Magic who is an infinitely better player? Nevermind that Stockton didn't win a single assist title until after Magic declined.
haha no relax, stockton is nowhere near magic. It was just funny because you used ass instead of ast so stockton had more ass's!
Court vision is mostly an inborn talent. Those who have it show it at a very young age. You can see some kids have great court vision even at the junior high level. One can marginally improve by experience (when the proverbial "slowing down of the game" happens). But you don't become a Magic or Bird or Jokic if you don't have it in the first place.
Hey, I said that Magic was the superior player! Here is the thing, if I was coming up with an all-time team to compete with, the rest of my roster would look something like this: Center: Hakeem Olajuwon Power Forward: Larry Bird Small Forward: LeBron James Shooting Guard: Michael Jordan While Magic is no doubt the better player and PG, Stockton was just as effective a passer (more efficient actually), a MUCH better shooter and spacer, and a MUCH better defender. As for championship resume, why would I care about that? The rest of the team is chock full of all the championship experience that I need. I just need someone to handle the ball and get it to the other greats without ego.
I see the logic in this. Not that I agree, but roster construction is important when building a team.
