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To extend KPJ or not?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lachard Binkley, Jul 29, 2022.

  1. DaDakota

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    I sure did, took notes and everything - I did a complete breakdown as scout for my OKC internet group.

    But I ain't sharing it with you....

    ;)

    DD
     
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    Interesting, I did too. And based on my analysis, KPJ shares a lot more similarities with Jamal Crawford, and I actually have stats to back up my assertions.

    ;)
     
  3. Corrosion

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    These people wanting to extend KPJ for $20m plus will be the first ones pissing and complaining about how bad RahFell screwed up and he needs to be fired for it.
     
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    Stone translated: So far so good, he hasn't spontaneously combusted. Let's see if he can keep that up.
     
  6. DaDakota

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    He had by far the best and deepest interview on media day, extremely self reflective and mature.

    WOW !

    DD
     
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  7. Joe Joe

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    Is that hyperbole? Are there are people that want to extend him to $20M plus per year?

    It looks like Rockets are offering around the cap hold for next year based on Iko's reporting that KPJ wouldn't likely accept $7-9M/year. I thought the pro-extend crowd was hoping the Rockets would offer in the $12-15M range, and that KPJ would accept that.
     
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    There were around 3-4 people saying that $15M is a good deal for a player about to break out with 1-2 of the more crazier ones saying another team will sign him away for $20M per. Correct me if I am wrong though... isn't he a RFA at the end of this season so even if he does break out and some team offers him $20M+, we can still match it if he's worth it?
     
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    Yep...all true...I figured now 12m ish - but if he breaks out be prepared to pay more than 20m.



    I really hope they break up the interviews into segments so we can post the KPJ interview here for all those - uh, non-believers.


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    Yes. But you let him walk at 20m per. I get the feeling Stone doesn't see him as a long term fit unless it's a hell of a deal.
     
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    Yes, he will be a RFA. That should damper some of the contract offers for him even if he breaks out and is worth $20M.
     
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    Stone is trying to find stars or keep flexibility to get stars. If KPJ is worth $15M-$20M and he gets offered that, I think Rockets might pass or do a sign and trade (if offer is unofficial). If he's worth more than $20M/year, I think Rockets match any appropriate offer.
     
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    Hopefully he has moved on from has past maturity issues and breaks out. That would be awesome for us. Actions speak louder than words though, so I will look forward to him proving me wrong on the court.
     
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    Of course he is going to say the right things in a contract year. Maybe if he didn't beat up women, drive messed up and leave a game at halftime after failing everywhere else people would believe him
     
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    Well said. My only concern is he gets his money and it's the same behavior pattern
     
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    KPJ's cap hold is only $9.7M for 2023-2024. If KPJ breaks out, use cap space and draft capital to bring in a star and maybe another starter, and then use Bird Rights to go over the cap to re-sign KPJ. I don't see a problem if KPJ breaks out. Once the Rockets are over the cap, $8M extra a year probably won't matter too much for 3-4 years until time to extend Jabari and Tari hit.
     
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    if he actually grows a lot this season and gets a 15-18 mil offer sheet, matching is good. You always need contracts to trade for that future star and ideally contracts that are positive value
     
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    Rockets will have cap space. If they can't get a star or close to it in 2023, I think they punt to 2024. They likely won't need matching salaries for 2 seasons unless they find a star in 2023.

    The Rockets would match a 15-18M offer if it has a lot of positive value, though for that to be the case, KPJ has to be worth more than $20M.
     
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    even if he's just neutral value, you still need SOME contracts to trade in 2-3 years when you're trying to get a star, it's not good if you have only your good younger players that you're trying to keep
     
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