Carlos Correa to the Twins - 3 Years, $105 Million

I can't imagine the Twins are happy with having spent so much to get so little from him.

 

They got a 4+ war season from him. His offensive numbers were really good, best in the majors for a SS. He gave them way more than “so little” and way less than an MVP season. He was fine. They got positive value out of the contract. They contended for most of the season so I would imagine that helped their attendance. CC and Minn used each other, in a marriage of convenience, and both were just fine (and I imagine moving on this off-season).

 

I would consider that "so little" for 30 mil a year

His overall 5 WAR would put him 3rd on the Astros.... that's not a 30 mill a year level player... hell Pena was 4.4 as a rookie.

I just think teams expect more when paying top dollar

 

it was a short term deal for a market that isn't typically able to lure that kind of free agent in any sport. I'm sure they are fine.

 

Except that’s not how any of this works. Every ear is worth 8.5. He overperformed his contract. And he likely did that on a 1 year deal which just doesn’t happen with 27 year olds in their prime as FA. The deal, by all metrics, was a decent one for the Twins. They aren’t in the playoffs because the guys around him weren’t good enough, not through any fault of Correa’s.

 

Minny is an abysmal 7-16 in September. They haven't had a winning month since May. No playoffs for you guys.

But you know what? Its not Carlos's fault, He has a .360 BA and a OPS north of 1.000 for September.

 

I think ppl were expecting him to be Arod 2.0 and he’s clearly not close to that. He’s good but definitely not a smart move giving this guy 250m.

 

I think your math is slightly off. If each War is worth 8.5 as you say, and Correa has achieved 4.1 War, then he has earned 34.85. His contract is for 35.1, so he has not yet performed to his contract, much less over-performed. This relates to your comment and nothing more regarding Correa

 

At the end of the day all that $ that would have been given to Correa will be used to sign guys like Yordan (has ready happened), JV, Framber, Javier, hopefully Tuck, and others.

 

He’s higher on the other system and I’m betting he ends up at least 4.2 which would make his contract a slight overperform. He’s averaging 1/10 of a victory every 3.6 games, so you’d expect him to end up, if the season continues the way it has with 4.4. If he doesn’t play another inning or doesn’t bring positive value in the last 10 games he will overperform in one and underperform by less than 1/10 of a point in the other.

 

Again, none of this is an argument that the Astros should have re-signed him. I called for them to trade Yuli and Brantley in the off-season to free up some money, but with Zoe a being a positive contributor for free essentially as a regular season question the Astros are clearly better off with money spent elsewhere. This wasn’t a team for the regular season, obviously, and we can’t know what the playoffs would hold with Carlos there.

 

Or in this year’s case, it just went unspent…

 

So you were wanting to trade both Yuli and Brantley BEFORE the season started?? Two guys who were 1st and 2nd in the AL in batting avg.

 

Which is definitely flat out PATHETIC that there's 30+ million that wasn't spent to upgrade this year's team. Was never going to be given to Correa because they weren't going to give him an opt out after one yr (or two yrs like Minny gave him).

 

Just saying that its hard to earmark Correa's money automatically going elsewhere... it may, it may not, frankly with the profits the Astros are making there should be enough money for him plus the extensions (especially when you consider Altuve/Bregman are off the books in 2 years).

As always, its contention dependent. If they're in it, Crane will spend if needed. If they're not in it (whenever that may be), I expect Crane to order a massive tear-down (or that will be when he sells the team for a sizable profit).

The young pitching coming up has extended the window. They should be in the top 5 of payroll for at least the next 5 years (again, unless the bottom falls out on the team due to injuries or whatever).

 

Yeah I did. Everyone thought I was. It’s but they were old and 24M is pretty significant. I’d have rather used that plus CC 12M to just sign him (or Kris Bryant or Sterling Marte). I was on here talking about platooning Brantley, him getting old, not having enough thump, injury concerns and just sort of hand waived away. I grew up in SF rooting for the Bill Walsh. 49ers. He always wanted to risk 1 year too early and not 1 year too late. Belicheck is the same. Oh well.

 

Doubtful that any trade partner would have picked up all their salary. They were signed going into the season... they're not the reason why they didn't go harder after Correa.

 

I don't completely agree with the sentiment that we know who Correa will be as a player offensively. I still think he is very capable of hitting 40-50 homers and having some seasons in the 900-950 OPS range. He is an extremely talented player that is only 28 years old and has battled a lot of injuries. If he can stay healthy for a few seasons I firmly believe he can surprise people with the bat. He has already had two seasons with an OPS north of .925.....

 

Welcome to the world of Minnesota Sports!

They even have a term for it for Vikings' fans but it applies to almost all MN sports
AVATAR (Anticipated Vikings Abandonment Traumatic Aggravated Reaction).

 

The feeling that I can tell here among MN Fans is mixed. There are many who feel Correa wasn't worth the money they paid for him but there are also many who think he played well for the Twins and it isn't his fault that Buxton continues to disapoint or that the Twins lack a true ace on their staff.

Speaking of Buxton he signed a 7 year $100 mil extension and he has yet to play a 100 game season.