No, you’re flat out wrong and it’s idiotic at this point. He shot better from at the line than LeBron, so o guess he’s better based on your dumb ass logic. Literally the dumbest thing I’ve seen on this thread
And of course he had more turnovers! Burks was only asked to catch and shoot, not handle the ball and run an offense. Smh
KPJ was having to carry a garbage team with absolutely no help for most of the season....that kind of thing will harm efficiency stats, but it's flat out absurd to compare that to a scrub role player as if the scrub role player could have taken KPJ's place. We saw what difference it made when Jalen Green finally started delivering something on offense, that little bit of help made all the difference in the world when it came to KP's efficiency. If he got to sit back as the 4th best player on a team, I'm sure his efficiency stats would be even better.
Burks last year averaged 11.7 ppg on 28.6 minutes on 4.2 2pt fga, and 4.8 3pt attempts efg% 49.9 KPJ last year averaged 15.6 ppg on 31.2 minutes on 6.5 2pt fga, and 6.8 3pt attemps efg% 51.1 Burks took less shots with similar efficiency excluding the free throws. Burks is way ahead in fts. These two players, in terms of shooting are quite comparable.
I am obviously not saying that the best free throw shooters in the NBA are the best players. LeBron does so many other things to make his team successful that his lower FT rate isn't a big deal. Same thing applied to Tim Duncan, who was a notoriously poor free throw shooter for much of his career. The point is that when you have one area of your game that is lacking, you can make up for it by being better in other areas and still make yourself valuable. You make a good point about the roles each player has on their team. Burks is asked to catch and shoot, whereas KPJ is asked to facilitate. Ironically enough, catch and shoot is an area KPJ excelled at last season. But are we going to be paying him to facilitate or to catch and shoot? He is a player that still has a lot of question marks around him, so I am a little hesitant to just give him $15-20mm and hope he and the coaching staff figure it all out. I don't currently have much faith in either party to do so. That said, I would gladly extend him for the next 4 years at $10mm. It doesn't do anything to affect our cap space next summer, and if we end up with a more effective PG and KPJ moves to 6th man role, we are still getting adequate value.
Bobby making a fool of himself as always. As someone correctly pointed out if you're on his side of the argument you may want to reevaluate your position. The argument that he's comparable to Harden might be the worst I have seen on here. Harden literally does everything better. Comparing one of the best SGs we've seen to a guy who should be coming off the bench is so absurd. It's like comparing Warren Buffet to a used car salesman. I get some people hate Harden because of how he left but I have a hard time grasping how anyone could be moronic enough to compare him to KPJ. Just say you hate Harden
Sure, if you want to argue semantics, you can go ahead and "compare" KPJ to Michael Jordan whilst you are at it.
People can surely have their opinion on what information they value and what information they don't. In the end ALL OF IT IS OPINION by FANS !!!! Lies, damned lies and statistics.....going strong for hundreds of years. Stats are a good tool, but not the final decision - got to understand the game that stats don't account for - you know the seasoned eyeball test..... DD
I’m not the one who picked those names. He was compared to them by someone else. And I think you might be losing sight of the thread topic. It’s not “is KPJ a good player?” It is “should we extend him?” A crutch that seems to be used a lot is that he has been asked to do things that he is either not used to doing or is not good at. While I am for extending him at the right price, I would also argue that the team should not extend him if they don’t have a defined role for him or know how to use him. I think there is a good chance that he does resemble the player that we saw at the end of the season, but we don’t know at this point.
Questioning if we should extend the most talented young player on the team is flat out absurd. It would set the Rockets back several years if they were foolish enough to let him get away by being too cheap to pay him. He was extremely good at what he was asked to do when he got even a little bit of help, he struggled when it was him out there trying to carry the entire team by himself.....which would happen to basically any young player. His role is obvious, he's the PG who will share responsibilities with Green if Green ever gets good enough at it to do so. They'd be basically a perfect match given KPJ's abilities both on ball and off ball. I know, I know, you don't see it. That's fine, give it time, I think you'll come around if you are open to do so.
As of right now? Yeah. You can say that they are better at individual things, but none of them have the well rounded talent that KPJ does right now. Jabari is likely the best defender, but his offensive game needs a TON of work. Jalen is the most athletic and probably the best scorer right now, but he can't reliably run an offense and create for anyone but himself and he's basically a traffic cone on defense. KPJ can create for himself, create for others, is a solid defender, and he can score off-ball. There's really no coherent argument otherwise.
Franchises don’t get set back years because they don’t extend players that they invested a second round pick on. They get set back years when they miss on high draft picks or trade multiple future picks for a poor player. If they don’t extend him and he goes somewhere else and becomes an all-star, then it might be an indictment on the coaching staff because he’s been a below replacement level player up to this point. It would be a missed opportunity, but they will be able to move forward just fine because all they lost was a second round pick.
That's an overly simplistic way of looking at it, obviously it depends on who those players are. If you trade a second round pick for a player who ends up a star and you let them walk, it absolutely sets your team back. The Spurs spent a second round pick on Manu Ginobili, you saying they wouldn't have set their franchise back if they had let him walk in his 2nd year with the team? I mean, I get that you have a hilariously low opinion of KPJ and that's why I don't see a point in really getting into it with you. Let's just wait till the season starts and I feel like if you are open to taking the blinders off, you'll see what I see....or at least something approaching that.
the same people who said KPJr would average 20 and 8 last year while Green would average 12 and 2 are now the expert talent evaluators
