This type of violence isn’t acceptable from anyone, left or right. I hope he has his day in court and pays for his crime. I have seen several posters say that the left doesn’t commit terrorist crime or violent crime against conservatives. I don’t know if that is true or not, I do know that I beat a man who had a couple Trump flags on his F-250. He blocked me in a parking lot, I had someone tell me it was this guys truck. He denied it and then said he would move it after he and his family were done eating. I told him he was illegally parked and to move it now. He laughed at me and I waited 90 minutes until he finally came out with his family and beat his ass in front of his kids. He moved the truck, I drove off and nothing happened to me.
"MAGAs are the biggest threat to democracy" The hypocrisy is from the libs end. It applies to both or it applies to none. If Trump "incited" Jan 6, then remarks like that are also responsible for libs targeting conservatives.
They are. Liberals weren't the one that participated in Jan 6 to attempt to overturn the election. Folks didn't attack the Capitol for selfies. Their actions were incited from the words of the republican politicians that u fail to condem. All I see is whataboutism and u downplaying it which makes it rich that u have faux outrage towards reeko stance. U r just a hypocrite.
I wasn't there so I don't want to judge the situation but I am extremely careful about getting into fights in public. A guy with a bunch of Trump flags on his truck I would be worried he goes for a gun the moment he feels threatened. Also not to mention all the liability or his family or some bystandar videos it and post an edited version on social media with the tagline "Angry Lib beats up Trump supporting dad" without any context. A situation like that I would've just taken a pic of his truck illegally parked taken it to the facility and told them to call a tow truck and get it moved.
1) We are talking about individual people making violent decisions, not government led actions. 2) The 2 nukes were developed under FDR and dropped under Truman, so blaming the American conservative right for that would be weird.
I agree that is what a rational and well balanced person would and should have done. Unfortunately I am not always well balanced and have been in too many fights going back to being 3-4 years old. I cannot say that I regret what I did or believe that what I did was wrong, but with a son, I don't think that I would handle it the same way now.
Jan 6 did happen and it were Republicans who did it. Incited by the words of Republicans leaders. U downplaying and using whataboutism just show u r a big hypocrite.
I haven't been in a "street fight" in more than 10 years. The last time I had to defend myself some drunk British guy tried to choke me because he offended that I was clapping to a band playing IRA songs. (this was in an Irish bar). I got out of the choke quickly and shoved him away from me and that was it. There has always been liability risks for martial artists engaging in fights. If you hold a black belt some jurisdictions consider that a deadly weapon so legally we are strongly discouraged from fighting outside of a dojo. Besides that there are just too many guns out there and no matter what some martial artists say going up with Karate, Judo, Krav Maga or Secret Daoism Chi technique against a firearm you're likely to get shot. And we have to consider anything we do these days in public can be recorded and spread in ways that we wouldn't like. For those reasons and more it's not worth it to fight in public. Also has I said in some other recent threads. Martial Arts for me is a privilage and many aren't worth that privelage for me to fight outside of a clear self-defense situation.
Ah yes, the ol “both sides” routine. A couple of questions: Do you believe the election was stolen? Do you believe the J6 insurrectionists are criminals? If your answers are yes and no, then you should have no issue with what Biden said. If you think the election was stolen and are sympathetic to the J6 insurrectionists, you’re part of the problem and no wonder you are upset at Biden. As for Biden’s words, where did he call for any action, other than to vote? Did he tell people to March somewhere? Did he tell people to protest? Did he use any language that is objectively inflammatory? Of course not. He stated a fact, full stop. Do I need to quote back to you the dozens or hundreds of actual inflammatory or violent language that Trump used during his primary, his presidency and after? We can easily play that game, just say the word. I seem to recall that Republicans big criticism of Biden was that he couldn’t give a speech, speak in complete sentences, draw a crowd, and there is no way Biden’s limp dick, no energy candidacy coulda gotten all those votes. Now he is an inspirational speaker who moves people to violence? That is hilarious.
Ah I see, ask loaded questions while disregarding all possibilities of nuance, demand strict, narrow answers and accuse of insurrection if the answer goes a certain way. Libtards on full display.
"Do you believe the election was stolen?" is a loaded question? Asking if you believe insurrectionists are criminals isn't a loaded question. You know what you believe.
then please do educate me on the “nuance” you have in mind. I’ll wait. I’ll also wait for the explanation for how Bidens comments were inflammatory or incited violence, or were in any way comparable to Trump. I mean, I know you said they were the same, but ipse dixit works neither in a courtroom or here. I suspect this is taking you into uncomfortable actual discussion, but I think you can elaborate. I have confidence in you.
What's your alt account that has your actual sincere beliefs? You're doing a bad parody of my wing talking points. They actually have more coherent points that you could use, but it seems like you just want to do the worst parody of them to make them look really bad.
I will never forget being ready to fight a complete stranger because we veered towards each other on the road, but I came to my senses after realizing there was no benefit at all…even if i pummeled the dude because cameras, he could armed or a knife, legal issues, etc …I’m with you, I will defend myself but it has to be no doubt self defense requiring lethal force.
I'm not required to play by your rules, you're just going to come back with nonsense. In 2016, libs whined about collusion and that the election was compromised. When they do it it's protecting election integrity, when republicans call election protections into question they incite insurrection and threaten democracy. Trump encouraged marching, that is not illegal. BLM marched all summer long with impunity, libs encouraged it, "get in their faces, make them uncomfortable" nobody batted an eye. When a group of idiots stormed the capitol and were (rightfully) prosecuted and jailed, everyone looked to the top to blame instead of just the knuckleheads that are grown adults and acted on their own volition. Biden creates a culture that all MAGAs are bad people, are domestic terrorists, and threaten the country - and you wonder why this kind of stuff is starting to happen, and are surprised people look to the leader's words when it does happen. Liberals and poison.
Pigeonholing the responses that "if you say yes to one and no to the other, you are part of the problem" Yes, that is loaded.
I don't care what you think about my responses, but since you asked, I'll answer. Yes - the folks that stormed the capitol are criminals, they belong in jail. Yes - I believe the election was compromised. No, that does not make me an insurrectionist.
Libs whined that a foreign power had manipulated people, not that the election was fraudulently stolen. The libs potion for that was to crack down on election interference by foreign powers, campaign finance rules, sanctions on the foreign power, rules about who you can get information from, etc. Trump argued that people were literally forging ballots, stealing the election to put in a false president. Stealing the country so they could go after you. Trump wanted steps taken to keep himself in power. He told an angry mob to fight like hell before they steal your country. I know you know the difference deep down.
