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[Amazon Prime]The Lord of the Rings - Series

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  1. JayZ750

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    Going to keep watching but it’s pretty bad. It’s just the storylines and writing … they’re awful.

    and it still possibly the better show between it and HOTD.

    it’s impressive how mediocre/bad both are.

    The Imperfects of Netflix, all WB-vibe and everything, is so far way more enjoyable.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    I think everyone is complaining about the setup, because there is so much to tell about places we know nothing about.....I thought Ep4 turned a corner and started with much better character development.

    Will keep watching am enjoying it.

    And whomever the Starman Stranger truly is.....has gotten me thinking....

    DD
     
  3. Supermac34

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    Something is really bothering me about the timeline in this show. There are certain events that happen in a certain order over a few hundred years and it seems like they are smooshing it all together.

    It took me to Youtube where there is now a prevailing theory that we are actually watching multiple timelines, not just multiple stories. I hadn't even thought of that, and probably should have.
     
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    producers said they smashed the timeline to make it work better.

    Also doesn’t appear to be that because:
    Elf King announced evil is gone to Galadriel
    The watchtower elves were leaving because of that announcement
    The survivors of that orc attack said they saw the meteor
    Harfoots have the meteor man
     
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  5. Invisible Fan

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    I like the music. Gives me nostalgic Peter Jackson vibes.

    ::shrugs::
     
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  6. Deckard

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    Like you, I’m going to watch every episode as they come out. I’m open minded about it. Heck, some of the scenes are simply beautiful. Doesn’t mean I can’t make fun of it if I feel like it.

    I read the Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings back in the’60’s, reading both again more than once. I have the other book I can’t spell and read it, too. I’ve earned the right. ;-)
     
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  7. rocketsjudoka

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    I actually fell asleep trying to watch all of Episode 4 last night. Will have to watch it again to see what I missed.
     
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  8. DaDakota

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    The Silmarillian.....I think is how you spell it.

    DD
     
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  9. Deckard

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    That’s it. Very convoluted. I plowed through the tome, with the worst aspect being all the names, the spellings, the near impossible pronunciations in my head, which were way off, no doubt.

    Tolkien loved real ancient languages. I respect him for it, as well as his invention of entire cultures for his novels, their languages and traditions. It can make for difficult reading in the Silmarillian, however.
     
  10. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It's definitely not trending in the right direction. Frankly it's boring. A lot of arguing and then everything is magically solved by petals falling off a tree.
     
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  11. Dr of Dunk

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    I don't think anything was really solved by the petals falling other than "ok, maybe we screwed up - let's bring her back". I thought the petals falling was foreboding of a either a blunder (Miriel's decision to give Galadriel the boot out of Numenor) and/or impending doom. This is why she changed her mind in a moment of "oops". When Nimloth shed its petals, it was a sign she had screwed up in the eyes of the Valar. They already think when the petals fall off the tree, it will be the sign of the end for Numenor.
     
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  12. rocketsjudoka

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    The petals falling off the tree was a symbol that Numenor was going to be destroyed if they didnt help Galadriel. It was heavily foreshadowed in the dreams that the Queen had.
     
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  13. Yung-T

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    Why pay attention to the show when you can just bash it online and act like everything is garbage. :oops:
     
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  14. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    They spent all this time showing the hostility they had towards the elves - not just the leaders but the people too. They built that up over multiple episodes and just washed it all away with a an act that was symbolic. Hatred doesn't change on a dime. Even if the leaders recognized the symbolism, it would be far easier to rationalize it away vs acting on it given the hostility of the population towards the elf. You're telling me that hostility all of a sudden turns to support? No one protested this change? There were no boos, but instead everyone was like, "We now love the Elf!" Give me a break.
     
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    It was hard for me to buy that a symbol of a forgotten past had more cred with than elves who clearly have more tangible ties with the Valar. Those suckers are near immortal, so their books would definitely know galadriel's lineage and that she isn't one known to **** around.

    So if they did shun the elves, then I'm more inclined to think they'd also shun symbolism and create their own Jesus with their own likenesses. It'd reinforce how decadent and arrogant they've become as the peak of humanity.

    Instead they shifted from xenophobic jerb hoarding Islanders (boo them wetback elves I say, boo!) into what will be half of the military power that fights back Sauron.

    I'm sure they'll fill in the blanks in the subsequent episodes...
     
  16. justtxyank

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    Paid attention to the show. I don't want to speak for Sweet Lou, but to me it is poor writing when the tension built over two episodes is magically erased in 10 seconds of screen time.

    Now my guess is that the hatred of the Elves is not just magically gone and that the other guy will be problematic going forward, but that will again be weird writing on screen. It's not hatred to say the writing is weak.
     
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    I reached some fallen red petals from a tree in elden ring last night, and it forbode invasion by a giant bear, three red dogs, and a red dude wielding two machetes. I was slaughtered several times.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    It's called "hate watching".
    I don't dislike the show and it's got some good things going for it such as the visuals. I'm just not blown away by it and I'm a Tolkein nerd who is nitpicking it.
     
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    maybe it's not woke because because it causes people to be asleep
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  20. rocketsjudoka

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    Yes this is another example of lazy writing.
    In the Silmarilion Galadriel never went to Numenor but the Numenorians did come to Middle Earth to fight Sauon. It wasn't for the elves but because they saw Sauron a potential threat and also because they wanted to build an empire on Middle Earth. As the Rings of Power noted most Numenorians had turned their back to the Elves and the Valar. Ar-Pharazon, who in the show is depicted as the Chancellor, was the king at the time and he was the leader of the anti-Elf faction and the impetus behind invading Middle Earth. There were also "Elf-Friends" with Elendil being the leader of that faction. The Queen was an Elf friend who was the daughter of Tar Palantir, the last King of Numenor friendly to the Elves, but she had been forced to marry Ar-Pharazon and didn't really have much power.

    The Rings of Power are both compressing the history but also giving the Queen a much larger role probably both out of lazy writing but to give a feminist character more power.
     

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