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Astros 2022 Season General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 9, 2022.

  1. xcrunner51

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    IMHO, I think it's pretty clear they don't worry about that at all. The team was a 100-win pace, WS contender before Brown/Hensley/Y. Diaz were called up and the team knows doing whatever it was doing for the first 5 months of the season is more important in the final month than discovering some marginal roster upgrade.
     
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    It seriously annoys me that Judge hitting HRs 58 and 59 is a bigger headline on both ESPN and MLB.com than Framber actually setting the single season record for consecutive quality starts.

    He's not even approaching the overall MLB record OR actually at the AL record yet. Just get off his nuts.
     
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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UjkuJPvMrI8
     
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    come on man, did you know who held the record for consecutive quality starts or what it was? That's not a record anyone knows about or cares about
     
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    Most people probably don't know what a quality start is. And it's a fairly arbitrary stat anyway - basically, just keep having an ERA of 4.50. Which of these 3 is a better stat line:

    5 innings, 0 runs
    6 innings, 3 runs
    9 innings, 4 runs
     
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    5 innings 0 runs wouldn't count, so verlander's oakland start of 5 innings 0 hits 9 k's would not count as a quality start, though i thought he was fairly decent
     
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    Not to take anything away, but I agree that I always felt it was soemewhat arbitrary. 5 innings 0 runs is definitely better than 6 innings, 3 runs.

    AL record is 61, barring something extremely unforeseen he's likely to get there.
    As far as ESPN headlines, there's always been a big market bias. They know anything Yankees generates clicks, so why should we be surprised?
     
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  8. Major

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    Exactly - it just seems like a dumb set of standards that doesn't really measure anything too useful. I'd much rather have someone go 5 innings / 0 runs than 6 innings / 3 runs. And I'd take 9 innings / 4 runs over that too.
     
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    the AL single season home run record isn't really that relevant anymore either. It was surpassed 6 times on the NL side.

    The chase is literally for the 7th highest overall single season HR total.
     
  10. Major

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    But getting to the AL record is stepping stone - 7th highest single season HR total would be a pretty big deal in itself, especially when the guy is 20 HRs ahead of anyone else this season. No one knows what the QS record is and if Framber passes it by 5, no one would care or know how many QS's he had.

    I wonder if you'd feel the same if it was Yordan at 59 HRs and 20 HR's ahead of 2nd place, while Nester Cortes was setting the QS record.
     
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    I'm no Judge fan, but what he's doing this season is pretty amazing. When was the last time the HR leader had 20 homers more than #2? And a legit shot at the triple crown? I won't say he's having a Ruthian year, but it's pretty damn close.
     
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    All the big HR seasons that McGuire, Sosa, and Bonds had were fueled by steroids so this is significant. This will be the non-steriod era record. Fun fact: Sosa is the only player to hit 60+ HR's 3 times, yet in none of those 3 seasons did he lead the league in HR's.
     
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    I'd be excited for sure, but team level excited not 'every single sports fan needs to know this' excited.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    In 1968 Gibson started 34 games and had 32 quality starts. The two he didn't?

    9 inning 4 run complete game ... StL won 5-4
    11 inning 4 runs ... StL lost in 13 6-5
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    All that being said, regardless of the definition of QS, Framber has accomplished something that no one else in the long history of MLB has.
     
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    That was such an insane season. He was very close to having all 34 of his starts being quality starts. I decided to look it up, and in both of those games, he surrendered the fourth earned run in the 9th. I think his 1968 season is still the greatest pitching season in the live ball era,
     
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    Just noticed that Yordan’s current wRC+ of 189 is higher than Sammy Sosa’s career best of 186 in 2001.
     
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    That's true - but he also did that the day he got called up for the Astros. No other person named Framber had ever made it to the big leagues, I believe.
     
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  20. DaDakota

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    When is Hunter Brown scheduled to pitch again? And shouldn't he replace Urquidy?

    DD
     

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