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Breaking: FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by larsv8, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. Astrodome

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    They cleaned the Windy City up.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Obviously they did somewhat. Let's not make perfect the enemy of good.
     
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  3. jiggyfly

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    Project Veritas?

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  4. jiggyfly

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    Leadership?

    What is she the leader of?

    How is this different from all the Q candidates?
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Please tell me that you know that is a photoshopped picture and you are posting it as a joke and you're not that naive to think that it's real.
     
  6. deb4rockets

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    I say weed out the racists, the traitors, bigots and gay bashers, and the corrupt politicians. By the way, she isn't a Senator, just a candidate.

    Do you agree with eliminating the coup instigators, gay hating bigots, insurrection inciters, election fraud claim propaganda spreaders, pedophiles and sex traffickers, White Supremacists, traitors, and corrupt politicians from holding positions as President, or in the Senate or Congress?

    As for teachers, just like any job, bigotry, racism, and discrimination isn't allowed. You can file complaints to have them fired. Politicians get away with this kind of hate.
     
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    Where the hell was he to speak up earlier? They will enable, then look to profit off a book years later…
     
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  8. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    This might be futile, but I'll try: what do you make of the fact that when lawyers representing President Trump appeared in court after the 2020 election the vast majority of their cases were either dropped or dismissed before they were, most likely, ruled against for lack of evidence and/or standing? I'm citing a Wikipedia summary of the lawsuits btw.

    Do you believe that the Trump Justice Department, led by William Barr, was either part of a grand conspiracy or unable to recognize one? Were the 16 federal prosecutors assigned by Barr to monitor the election inept or political actors working in favor of Joe Biden? Was the Trump Department of Homeland Security wrong or untrustworthy when it said the 2020 election was the "most secure in American history"?

    What's so frustrating to those of us who know there was no election fraud is that, in order to believe President Biden "stole" the election, you have to also believe that the incumbent government under President Trump was either incapable of stopping an outside actor (Biden) from stealing the election or that the only candidate on the ballot who was affected by any fraud was President Trump. If there truly were doubts about the election, the same skepticism should be hurled at GOP winners in states like Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. where Republican candidates outperformed Trump. Why would the party as a whole make gains across the country if the election was tainted?
     
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  10. deb4rockets

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    Who knows if they will actually find proof of espionage, whether it was selling secrets to the Saudis, Russia, or anyone else. What we do know is Trump had the documents. What we do know is Trump is a thief, a liar, and a grifting greedy b*st*rd of a man incapable of feeling guilt or remorse

    What we do know is the Rosenbergs were the first U.S. citizens to be convicted and executed for espionage during peacetime even though both refused to admit any wrongdoing and proclaimed their innocence right up to the time of their deaths. If Trump is found guilty he deserves no better treatment, especially due to the fact that he betrayed the country he was paid to serve loyally and honestly.
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  11. Nook

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    Hard to think of another time that a President stole top classified documents from the US government.
     
  12. Blatz

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    Does it really hurt when you think? When you start to form an idea, do you grasp your head in agony shouting make it stop?




    Edit: as for the FBI telling him, "Don't tell anybody."

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  13. Reeko

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    Witch hunt
     
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    Im sorry, but there is zero chance that @raining threes or @Salvy will respond to this. All these facts make their head hurt. Stop it. Also, too many words for them to read.
     
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  16. Nook

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    LOL Project Veritas?

    First, it is a PRIVATE school, not a public school.

    Second the man that runs the site is a convicted felon and liar.

    Third they never release the unedited tapes.

    Fourth they have been discredited on every single tape they have released.

    Here is some basic history of Project Veritas

    Project Veritas was caught in a failed attempt to trick The Washington Post into posting a fabricated story about the Roy Moore sexual misconduct allegations.[17][18][46][47] The Washington Post critically examined the story that they were presented with, checked the source, assessed her credibility, and ultimately found that there was no merit to her claims, and that instead Project Veritas was trying to dupe The Washington Post.[32]

    O'Keefe has been barred from fundraising for Project Veritas in Florida, Maine, Mississippi, Utah, and Wisconsin, partly because of his federal criminal record for entering a federal building under fraudulent pretenses and partly because Project Veritas has repeatedly failed to properly disclose O'Keefe's criminal convictions in applications for nonprofit status. Similar disclosure issues for the group's registration also exist in New Mexico, New York, and North Carolina.[48][49][50]

    Planned Parenthood recordings (2008)
    In 2006, O'Keefe met Lila Rose, the founder of an anti-abortion group on the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) campus.O'Keefe made two videos incorporating heavily edited[36] versions of the recordings and released them on YouTube.[60] The video omitted the portions of the full conversation, in which a Planned Parenthood employee asked Rose to consult her mother about the pregnancy and another employee told Rose, "We have to follow the laws".

    ACORN videos (2009)
    Main article: ACORN 2009 undercover videos controversy
    The organization produced deceptively edited videos targeting the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), a 40-year-old advocacy organization for individuals of low and moderate income.[63][64][65]

    This gave viewers, including the media, the impression that he had dressed that way when speaking to ACORN workers. However, he actually entered the ACORN offices in conservative street clothes (the sleeve of his dress shirt is visible on camera).[70] Furthermore, the ACORN employees involved reported his activities to the San Diego Police Department after he left.[4]: 9  O'Keefe selectively edited and manipulated his recordings of ACORN employees [71][72] and distorted the chronologies.[73] Several journalists and media outlets have expressed regret for not properly scrutinizing and vetting his work.[citation needed]


    The California Attorney General's Office granted O'Keefe and Giles limited immunity from prosecution in exchange for providing the full, unedited videotapes related to ACORN offices in California.[66] On the basis of the edited videotape which O'Keefe released, Vera appeared to be a willing participant in helping with O'Keefe's plan to smuggle young women into the United States illegally. However, authorities confirmed that Vera immediately contacted them about O'Keefe and that he had also encouraged O'Keefe to share as much information as possible about his scheme and gather further evidence of O'Keefe's purported illegal activities, On March 5, 2013, O'Keefe agreed to pay $100,000 to former California ACORN employee Juan Carlos Vera, and acknowledged in the settlement that at the time he published his video he was unaware that Vera had notified the police about the incident. As part of the settlement, O'Keefe apologized for his actions, expressing regret for "any pain suffered by Mr. Vera or his family."[83][41][84] Giles paid Vera $50,000 in a separate settlement in the summer of 2012.[40]
     
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  17. Nook

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    Medicaid videos (2011)
    In the summer of 2011, O'Keefe released videos in which an actor working for Project Veritas attempted to apply for benefits while hinting that he was a drug smuggler; the actor failed to obtain benefits.[90] In Maine, Governor Paul LePage concluded upon further examination of the videos that there was no fraud or intent to commit fraud.[90][91][92]

    NPR video (2011)

    In a statement released before analysis of the longer raw video, NPR said, "The fraudulent organization represented in this video repeatedly pressed us to accept a $5 million check, with no strings attached, which we repeatedly refused to accept. We are appalled by the comments made by Ron Schiller in the video, which are contrary to what NPR stands for."[103]

    Journalists Ben Smith, James Poniewozik, and Dave Weigel have expressed regret for giving O'Keefe's NPR videos wider circulation without scrutinizing them for themselves.[71]

    Comparison of the raw video with the released one revealed editing that was characterized as "selective" and "deceptive" by Michael Gerson, opinion writer in The Washington Post, who wrote, "O'Keefe did not merely leave a false impression; he manufactured an elaborate, alluring lie."[104] Time magazine wrote that the video "transposed remarks from a different part of the meeting", was "manipulative" and "a partisan hit-job."[31]
    It also shows Schiller appearing to laugh about the potential spread of Islamic sharia law, when the longer version shows he laughed in reaction to something completely different."[102]

    Documentary filmmaker Josh Fox (2014)
    In 2014, at the Cannes Film Festival, Project Veritas released a deceptive video purporting to show that Josh Fox and other environmentalist documentary film makers could be influenced by foreign money. Fox released his own recording of the phone call, which showed the Project Veritas video was a misrepresentation. Fox had repeatedly told the fake investors that he was not interested.[127][128][129]


    Minnesota videos (2020)
    Project Veritas alleged that the material they released showed that Minnesota's Representative Ilhan Omar was connected to a cash-for-ballot harvesting scheme. Fact-checking website Snopes wrote that the videos "lack evidence to support this accusation", and that they included "clips of conversations that raise questions about the original context and intent of the words spoken."[168] Snopes requested that Project Veritas release its raw, unedited footage, but Project Veritas refused. Snopes also could not verify the accuracy of the Somali to English translations done by Project Veritas.[168] USA Today offered a similar assessment in their fact-check, stating that the Project Veritas material provides "no actual proof of fraud or any relationship between individuals in the video and Omar or her campaign"[167]

    Pennsylvania postal worker video (2020)
    Hopkins initially denied that he had recanted his allegations; however, he had no comment when the final Postmaster's General report and audio recordings from his interview confirmed that he had done so
    .[174][178][175]

    The Postal Service inspector general investigated and released a report in March 2021 confirming that Hopkins had recanted the account and finding no evidence to support his original claim.[175] Project Veritas continued to promote the postal worker's claims of fraud after they had been discredited.[175]
     
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  18. Nook

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    It is Project Veritas.

    It has less than zero credibility.

    Everything that they have put out has been discredited.

    You only believe it because you want to believe it.
     
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  19. Reeko

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    u have to be incredibly dumb and naive to be a Project Veritas truther…there is no hope for this country, people are just way too dumb
     
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  20. Rileydog

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    Damn Nook. So many facts.

    You’re like @gifford1967 when he lays the smack down with the search function.

    @Salvy doesn’t care if the Project Veritas stuff is true. Hell, he might even acknowledge it is false and fraudulent. Some people just want to spout stuff because it makes them feel good.
     
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