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To extend KPJ or not?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lachard Binkley, Jul 29, 2022.

  1. Easy

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    Why would anyone make a claim like you and keep doubling down on it in spite of counter evidence thrown to your face?

    Most reasonable people here say, "He's not there yet. Let's wait and see if KPJ can fix his deficiencies before we throw long term money at him." You, on the other hand, talk like you possess a crystal ball and KNOW he will be a superstar and will command max contract a year from now.
     
  2. jordnnnn

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    Same dude is in the predict our offense/defense rank thread predicting #10 offense and #14 defense next season. The same dude predicting a KPJ stat line that only hall of famers in their primes have put up.

    It’s not glass half full, hopeful optimism. It’s pure delusion. Fantasy land.
     
  3. jiggyfly

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    Yeah, it is minimal if what you are basing it on 72 points over a 82 game season by one player.

    Now if we are talking about a TEAM that's totally different, stop moving the goalpost.
     
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    Fallacy?

    Mavs won a championship playing zone defense
    vs the Heat. Making them a jump shooting team

    That's what teams did to the Rockets last season. Why would you guard our guys on the perimeter? Most of them anyway.

    You did read the tweet I posted where KPj faced the opposing teams best wing defender more than anyone not named: Doncic, Trae Young, Ja Morant and LeBron James. It's in this thread responses.

    You don't think that effected FG%, TS%, eFG%?

    I saw Trae Young tearing up the Sixers in the few games of a playoff series with Danny Green and Thybulle guarding him at almost 50% FG%.....then Ben Simmons started guarding him and his FG% dropped to about 42%. Yeah, defense doesn't matter.
    Doesn't matter who's guarding you. Says the one
    who knows nothing about basketball. Stick to M.I.T stat collecting. Leave the analysis to others.
     
  6. astrosrule

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    What would you consider a significant difference for a players shooting? 8%? 10%? 20%?
     
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    Strawman argument logic fallacy.
     
  8. Believe It!

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    Can you make your point in a way where it doesn't appear to be a computer malfunction? :D
     
  9. King1

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    KPJ fans getting embarrassed yet again. It's almost as automatic as him not getting a contract extension
     
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    Depends on the context.

    I don't know what that has to do with anything.
     
  12. Reeko

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    same thing with a player like SGA

    OKC runs “vanilla offense,” has less offensive talent and less spacing than Houston, yet SGA still produces at a high level

    multiple teams would have given SGA a max extension with no hesitation, and no team would ever give KPJr one, and no, it’s not just because of his off the court antics…Yet fanbois are trying to compare the 2? Make it make sense
     
  13. astrosrule

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    just curious if shooting % or efficiency from a single player would ever matter to you or not, if you use different methods then traditional efficiency metrics to make determinations
     
  14. AlperenSengun

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    Are you even watching basketball? Kpj in his last 7 games had much better numbers than sga. You might say that we lost all of the 7 games but that’s because his teammates suck. And How are last 2 season stats relevant in getting an extension? The guy just started playing pg and you expect to see a whole season of solid performance? potential is the key word here. Everybody can pay after the player has solid performance.

    I am glad you brought up ts %. The only reason kpj has low ts % is, he cannot make free throws and his 2pt % is not good. But that’s also because his teammates suck. Do you know how hard it is to hit free throws when you play with bad players and the best defender of the other team eyes you on the 3pt line when you are taking free throws?

    Of course I am trolling but this is more or less what I read in this thread.
     
  15. jiggyfly

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    Of course it would matter I have never said anything for you to think otherwise.

    I just don't think % and efficiency tells the entire story, and you need to look at a lot of other variables like teammates and coaching and what is being asked of a player.

    For some reason you and yours want to hold up % and efficiency in a vacuum and act like it's the most important thing to evaluate a player and even worse a young player on a terrible team.
     
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    So the only reason KPJ's TS% is bad is because KPJ is bad at the things that make TS% good like shooting and free throws.

    Fascinating.
     
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    Your reading comprehension is terrible then.

    This is rich coming from a guy who thinks Sengun is our best player and on the level of Jokic but know wants to clown people comparing KPJ to SGA.

    Talk about not having a clue.
     
  18. DaDakota

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    Ok, I have decided that it is ok for Stone to make this decision. We can close this thread.

    ;)

    DD
     
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    you cannot tell the difference between hakeem94 and me!! I guess if 4% in shooting is not significant, we can say hakeem94 and I post same stuff and have similar styles.
     
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