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Where do y'all see us ranking as a team offensively and defensively this year?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Plowman, Sep 12, 2022.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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  2. ApacheWarrior

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    Yeah, I'm under the impression 1) we have been tanking the last two years
    for: Fade for Cade and then Sh*t for Chet

    2) Silas admits to running Vanilla Offense and Defense in the exit interview
    because of so many youths.....not to be confused with Utes [ My Cousin Vinny ]
    Yeah Silas just admit "We been Tanking" John Wall was a good tank commander
    as was Christian Wood.

    More screen and dives to the rim that Wood didn't want any part of. I've posted
    the frequency of Mavs big men rolling to the basket during Silas time in 19/20
    and the miniscule frequency our big men did last season. It will open up lanes
    now that Wood isn't commanding 30.8 minutes a game. Now enter Tari and Jabari;
    willing roll men to go with WCS, Garuba, Bruno Fernando. GET THE HE** OUT OF THE WAY
    WOOD....oh he was traded. Good.

    Defense won't be worse than Mavs, Spurs, T-Wolves, Pistons at the end of the season
    which was middle of the pack. When you talk DRtg....most teams are separated by decimal
    points. Jabari and Tari will make mistakes but their length in wingspan is going
    to be huge for this team. Tate can stick with his proper position as the 3 and we can
    limit his time vs 4's and 5's where he easily gets out rebounded.

    I predict we do make the play-in and use our draft pick and the Nets/Bucks pick to move
    up in the draft to a position of #5 to #10......Rockets would rather go for
    a one quality prospect at #5--#10 than two additional projects occupying
    a roster spot on an already too young team.

    Use Eric Gordon draft pick(s) of possibly 2nd rounders or a first to help initiate a trade
    for a player or move up in the draft.

    *side note:
    Jalen Green will get 34 minutes
    KPj will get 34 minutes
    J Christopher will get the remaining 28 minutes
    as all 3 share the 1 and 2 spot duties.
    Add Sengun in the post for about 8 to 10 touches per game....top of the key
    running Olynyk role and passing from there.
    48 minutes per game of pressure attacking the rim.

    Things are going to open up on the offensive end. Shooters got to make their 3's though.
     
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    I don't think Silas is tanking intentionally - he's on the hot seat and first time coach. Makes no sense to damage his reputation by tanking without a long term contract and commitment from the org.

    Also, people forget that on a whole, people who are 18-20 are terrible basketball players no matter how much talent they are blessed with. In other words, the lack of experience on this team is the main reason they are bad. You can't out couch inexperience against NBA playoff teams.
     
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    I agree Silas won't be tanking this season....but I feel we have been tanking the
    past two seasons.

    When Silas system is allowed to run to it's fullest extent, ex: 19/20 Mavs
    and the past two seasons with the Vipers....it's very successful.

    Wood and Wall removed......Rockets will now take this baby on the highway
    and press petal to the metal and go full throttle.

    OKC has like 50 draft picks to obtain Wembanyama......Rockets if so lucky, should
    trade the pick to OKC of Wembanyama for all their picks. Rockets in turn trade the
    picks for the next disgruntled star.....which I'm hearing, the Rockets are already in
    place to do. Rockets just can't or should not have a roster of 10 to 12 first year
    players on the active roster.
     
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    @KingCheetah

    [ Sept 13, 2022....post #24 ] [ and in post #22 ]

    Flea bag.....hahaha
     
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    Exactly. The offense will roll, but we're going to have a hard time stopping a halfway decent team due to lack of interior D, and our youth.

    Take the OVER. Again, big TOTALS for our games.
     
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    youth = excitement + some (seemingly) inexplicable Ws - ahem experience, bulk.

    speaking of bulk - - the pix of’m Vic next to Chet? The latter’s body language is just beyond horrific.
     
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    Yes, but dont count out the Tari-Jabari factor.

    Popovich showed how teams can protect the rim
    with less bulky players as long as they present with length.

    Against Aldridge and the Blazers Pops used a guy like Kawhi to front and back tier defenders guarding the corner 3 ready to check that lob pass over the top.

    Hopefully Sengun moved quicker than last season from FT line to rim vs quick guards. If not Sengun can be used to build a lead and then removed for most of the 4th for defensive purposes.

    Ja Morant just torched Banchero the other day several times.

    Welcome to the NBA.
     
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    cont'd from post #28

    Tari-Jabari also allow us to move Tate-KMj out of the 4 spot. Play them predominantly at the 3 spot...which replaces EG or Mathews at the 3.

    Defense improves exponentially as a result.

    Just a balance of O & D that Silas has to master from game to game.
     
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    Then we'll just have to go Showtime on the league!
     
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    3 game early check in

    Offense : 22nd
    Defense : 30th
    Net : 30th

    TS% : 26th
    Pace : 11th
    Isolation % : 15th
     
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    the team looks better based off the eye test…I see the improvement

    will be hard to judge them on stats because this schedule is ass
     
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    They have definitely given up some wide open 3s on bad rotations but a large part of those numbers are driven by near perfect stat lines from Morant and Giannis. Those two in particular are the fastest, most athletic and strongest players in the league - you can’t slow them down playing defense in isolation - really requires a team defense to force those guys into tough shots and we have no chance at that this early in the season with such a young roster. You could see the moments in the Bucks game where Jabari thought he had good position on Giannis and got steamrolled nonetheless. I’m not worried at this stage - this is just a rough schedule to start the year where few teams would come out looking good. I’m not even sure the Warriors’ defensive numbers would look great playing Memphis and Milwaukee on a back to back.
     
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    Bottom 3 defensively.

    Middle of the pack offensively.
     
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    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Can't see us being more than decent defensively and even that's only after 20 games or so of experience. I would be shocked if our season average wasn't in the bottom 10 teams defensively.

    Offensively we'll be between 10th and 15th best team. We'll peak after the All Star break with a top 8 offense during that span.
     
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    First we need to address our strategy: Are we trying to win, tank, develop young guys or enhance asset value for trades?

    Whatever the answer, I doubt the coaching staff know what lineups will deliver the best outcome.

    If we want to improve defence and win, we should play Tari 30+ mins, ditch the KPJ/Green combo, and give zero time to KMJ and GM.

    Bottom 10 offence, bottom 5 defence is where we will likely end up with current coaching decisions. I think there is enough talent in this team that under the right system we could rank 12-17th best on offence and 18-23rd best on defence (but unlikely to be able to be as good at both).
     
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    Offensively, depends on how Stephanie draw schemes for jg, goon, bari n tari;
    Defensively, lets see how use or rotate bari, garuba, tate n tari;
     
  19. MorningZippo

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    1) we will lose, A LOT, regardless of our strategy, because we are simply not good.

    2) you don't bench your 2nd best player in KPJ and play your untested rookie 30 minutes a game if your goal is to win.
     
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    Win when? Win today or win 3 years from now? You may be able to fit into a tight pair of suit pants for a wedding this weekend by skipping a few meals this week but if you want to actually get more fit, you gotta put in the work over time and those results won't happen skipping meals this week. If you have a vague goal, you'll probably have a useless conversation about how to achieve that goal. A useful approach to meeting goals is setting a very specific "what" a very specific "when" and refining those "whats" and "whens" in regular inflection points as you learn more about your path and your capabilities.

    ...FWIW, I agree that Eason needs to get a lot of run in this year, but I don't think he needs to be a starter or given 30+minutes just yet - after all, a "team" is a system and if you bring in too many people unfamiliar with the system, it turns into a bunch of individuals on a court which is the easiest way to lose in the NBA regardless of your talent. There are things Eason can only learn in real time at game speed, things he can learn in real time playing in Rio Grande, and things he can learn from watching his teammates and other veterans from the bench. There is some overlap between all those things but I think part of the coaching staff's job is to set up Eason for success and throwing him out there to "figure it out" against real teams playing at superhuman speed isn't going to give Eason the time to reflect in the moment on what happened out because he likely isn't processing the game at that speed yet and if he isn't learning from his mistakes out there then it's not worth having him play big minutes.
     

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