Glad 2 see u are in agreement. Really telling as u r in sync to one of the most toxic poster on the forum. Man just straight up calls biden supporter mentally challenge and broke in post1781, but ya its the leftist spewing hatred. Republicans sure do love playing victims.
What u described isn't only limited to leftists. There are druggies on the right, expect food stamps and handouts. Cry when immigrants take their jobs and are actively racist/being Karen. U say sht like this and play victim wondering y folks call u out on your sht takes.
You’ve picked a side by going after “lefties”. Do you not acknowledge then that “righties” have said some nasty things too? I will note too while I don’t always agree with you I have defended you before to the consternation of some other posters. Let’s face it a lot of nasty things get said her by people on all sides. I’ve been accused of being a hype man for the Chinese while also being told I would never be welcomed in China by a Chinese poster. Oddly enough I’ve been told I should be deported by another poster. It comes with the territory.
Of course - but not to me. I appreciate that you are not like these bad people whose hearts are filled with hate against anyone who doesn't agree with them.
OK so “righties” aren’t insulting you so you’re going after “lefties” that’s kind of making my point. I think you’re getting way too wrapped up in this. And yes you’re not the only one and if it makes you feel better I think the veiled and not so veiled Nazi references to you are over the top and to the rest of y’all yes just because he is German doesn’t agree with you doesn't mean he’s a Nazi. I’ve long since given up trying to be a cyber nanny. Im just pointing out that there is plenty of venom in all sides. And it’s understandable. These are serious subjects that will get people heated. What I find is ironic is claiming the other side is so hateful ignoring what my side is saying.
I blame Biden or more so the Democrat conglomerates of who actually is in charge behind the scenes and definitely Star Wars and subsequently Disney for their theme and decor which accompanied the speech that Biden was instructed to give…think Biden thought of that satan atmosphere ? No he’s instructed on every which way to move or talk this next level hate and unadulterated division of wrath against each other which we are seeing in this country is unprecedented…never have I expected to see a speech that. It was vile and pure evil…I hope one day we can have someone with actual cognitive ability that will be President and unite the populace better than we see today…let’s think about the children
It's not ironic - people react when they get personally attacked, so if it is only one side doing it to you, then that's what you react to.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens...ocracy-11662161065?mod=hp_opin_pos_3#cxrecs_s Biden’s Speech Had It All Backward Biden’s Democrats seek a one-party state. Trump’s followers want freedom from government power. By Lance Morrow Sept. 4, 2022 9:08 am ET The Democrats have the “fascist” business wrong. Donald Trump isn’t a fascist, or even a semi-fascist, in President Biden’s term. Mr. Trump is an opportunist. His ideology is coextensive with his temperament: In both, he is an anarcho-narcissist. He is Elmer Gantry, or the Music Man, if Harold Hill had been trained in the black arts by Roy Cohn. He is what you might get by crossing the Wizard of Oz with Willie Sutton, who explained that he robbed banks because “that’s where the money is.” As for Mr. Trump’s followers, they belong to the Church of American Nostalgia. They are Norman Rockwellians, or Eisenhowerites. They regard themselves, not without reason, as the last sane Americans. You might think of them as American masculinity in exile; like James Fenimore Cooper’s Natty Bumppo, living in the forest has made their manners rough. If there are fascists in America these days, they are apt to be found among the tribes of the left. They are Mr. Biden and his people (including the lion’s share of the media), whose opinions have, since Jan. 6, 2021, hardened into absolute faith that any party or political belief system except their own is illegitimate—impermissible, inhuman, monstrous and (a nice touch) a threat to democracy. The evolution of their overprivileged emotions—their sentimentality gone fanatic—has led them, in 2022, to embrace Mussolini’s formula: “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.” Or against the party. (People forget, if they ever knew it, that both Hitler and Mussolini began as socialists). The state and the Democratic Party must speak and act as one, suppressing all dissent. America must conform to the orthodoxy—to the Chinese finger-traps of diversity-or-else and open borders—and rejoice in mandatory drag shows and all such theater of “gender.” Meantime, their man in the White House invokes emergency powers to forgive student debt and their thinkers wonder whether the Constitution and the separation of powers are all they’re cracked up to be. Mr. Trump and his followers, believe it or not, are essentially antifascists: They want the state to stand aside, to impose the least possible interference and allow market forces and entrepreneurial energies to work. Freedom isn’t fascism. Mr. Biden and his vast tribe are essentially enemies of freedom, although most of them haven’t thought the matter through. Freedom, the essential American value, isn’t on their minds. They desire maximum—that is, total—state or party control of all aspects of American life, including what people say and think. Seventy-four years after George Orwell wrote “1984,” such control (by way of surveillance cameras, social-media companies and the Internal Revenue Service, now to be shockingly augmented by 87,000 new employees) is entirely feasible. The left yearns for power and authoritarian order. It is Faust’s bargain; freedom is forfeit. Mr. Trump, the canniest showman in the White House since Franklin D. Roosevelt, introduced into 21st-century politics what seemed to be new idioms of hatred, a freestyle candor of the id. Doing so, he provoked his enemies—and finally Mr. Biden—to respond in kind: a big mistake. In the early 1950s, when Sen. Joseph McCarthy was loose in the land, and roughly half the country supported his anticommunist inquisition, President Eisenhower wisely decided, “I will not get into the gutter with this guy.” It took a while for McCarthy to implode. When Mr. Biden spoke in Philadelphia the other night, he might have been thinking of FDR’s speech at Madison Square Garden on the night of Oct. 31, 1936, at the end of his presidential campaign against Alf Landon—and, by the way, three months before he tried to pack the Supreme Court. That night, Roosevelt boasted that his enemies (Republicans, plutocrats, et al.) “are unanimous in their hate for me.” With a flourish, he added, “I welcome their hatred!” Americans, lamenting the divisions of 2022 and, some of them, entertaining fantasies of a new civil war, should refresh their historical memories. The country has been bitterly divided against itself any number of times. The hatreds and convulsions of the 1930s (the era of Huey Long and Father Charles Coughlin and the Silver Shirts, of homegrown tribes of Trotskyists and Stalinists) culminated in the ferocious battle between isolationists and internationalists that lasted until the Sunday morning of Pearl Harbor. The motif of political hatred returned to America almost as soon as World War II ended. The Alger Hiss case of 1948 warmed up the enmities, and McCarthy blew on the coals and turned half of the country against the other half. Such hatred seems cyclical. The 1960s (assassinations, civil rights battles, urban riots, the Vietnam War) had Americans at one another’s throats again. Those eruptions of political rage occurred in the years when the baby boomers and Joe Biden (who was a few years older) came of age and acquired their idea of what America is all about. That night in 1936, Roosevelt, warming to the language of hatred, suggested that his enemies should get out of the country: “Let them emigrate and try their lot under some foreign flag.” Mr. Biden—who, as he spoke in Philadelphia, was bathed in a lurid red light that seemed, as it were, ineptly theological—was content to cast his foes into outer darkness. Mr. Morrow is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center. His latest book is “The Noise of Typewriters: Remembering Journalism,” forthcoming in January.
Mr. Morrow is directionally right. While I think Trump is a bad person, the bigger danger to freedom actually comes from the left. Their coordinated attempts at using their power over large social media companies to silence dissent, the carefree ease with which they sought to enforce vaccine and mask mandates and China-style lockdowns, their repressions against people who do not go along with their anti-science, fanatical gender indoctrination agenda which is ultimately aimed at destroying the family bond in favour of more state control - all these things are more anti-freedom than the Republican agenda. As the article states, Trump is just an opportunistic narcissist. The problem is that it is easy to be against Trump, because he is just obviously a bad person. But the Left is trying to turn this into a "you must be with us against everything Trump is for, otherwise you are an enemy of the state and will be exposed to repression". That is potentially more dangerous than Trump himself.
You can even see the hate and the desire to make people conform to their views on this forum. If you don't agree with them, even if you don't personally attack them, they will try to form a Mao-style mob and will try to slander you, make hateful remarks way below the belt, don't shy away from displaying xenophobia and racism, which, of course, they think is exclusively a "right-wing" phenomenon. What's really interesting is, no matter how low they stoop, they still consider themselves the "good guys". They feel that they are defending whichever higher cause, so it gives them a right to behave the way they behave. Not different from what all the totalitarian socialists did when they got into power. Hitler and Stalin were socialists as well.
The connection is the mob mentality, the aggressive attitude displayed in attempting to stifle dissent.
Actually in 1920s Germany wouldn't Hitler be the one claiming his dissenting opinions and more extreme positions were being silenced convincing a large group of his followers they were victims of free speech oppression? Didn't Hitler have this same issue you do about neo-liberal governments supressing extremist positions and framing themselves to be victims?
This is why we can’t make progress here. There’s a lot of self pity and victimization here. We’re all just victims of the other side. I guess @glynch is right. Being a “contended moderate” really is the worst thing to be.
