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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. fchowd0311

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    Also a majority of Americans never attended college and therefore never attended a college economics class. A lot of them support Trump and his economic policies such as negative federal interest rates during a time of bubbles gdp growth.


    I would say a person who did four years of gender studies is probably more capable of reading and analyzing a lengthy dry nuanced paper on some economic theory or data than the common non-college degree holder right?

    Education often isn't about obtaining knowledge. It is often about training the brain to be intellectually curious and find HOW to obtain properly vetted information.
     
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    I would say that increased unsustainable wealth inequality is a threat to democracy often. Desperate people often will cling on to desperate more extremist narratives.
     
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    Probably professions that require a lot of writing.

    Anyways I've already stated this but our founders didn't look at education purely through the lens of a jobs program. They saw education as a means for a informed society as an informed society is a more free society. Like I said, someone in gender studies who takes their education seriously is reading a lot of dry nuanced text and writing analytical papers organizing and discussing what they read. People who do that for four years are going to be less prone to things like click bait. Those people probably also are more introspective. Probably better active listeners. A lot of positive benefits from having that type of education.
     
  4. Amiga

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    We have gone through that during the great depression. It was not a threat and I don't think it is ever a threat on its own. What I think you and @AroundTheWorld are saying is that conditions allow an anti-democracy movement to potentially flourish. I'm good with that and thus we should be tackling all of them. But my point simply is if you don't have a democracy, none of that really matters. Americans shouldn't look at their pocket issues today and prioritize that over democracy itself. It simply isn't as important.
     
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    All you need to do is add an "s".

    I doubt that. I once dated this German-Jamaican chick. She ended up studying "gender studies". From what I saw, those studies prepared her for virtually nothing (she works as an HR assistant in some company now).
     
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    Are we talking like cancel culture or “wokeness”? Cancel culture really came to life out of the Metoo movement and then picked up steam during the pandemic with the anti vaxxers and anti maskers and Karens.

    Is that the grievance? Being against masks, vaccines, or diversity and being demonized and muted for it leads to lack of faith in our institutions and thus beliefs in conspiracy theories?

    It’s a fair point.

    I think the larger issue is one of change. The Country is changing whether we like it or not as technology, diversity, etc changes. Old ways of doing things no longer work. The left is ok to make changes while the right is very, very resistant. So when an event like the pandemic happens and the left and the majority of society require change the minority feel ostracized for not going along.

    I can empathize that they may feel shunned and angry but living in society sometimes requires a personal sacrifice for the greater good. That may sound like famous last words but vaccines have always been that. Paying taxes is that.

    I think the right then argues well this is the slippery slope with the government requiring this and that. And out comes the conspiracy theories.

    I don’t know the solution. Personally I am ok with change and in this country as slow as real lasting change occurs I don’t worry about waking up tomorrow as Communist.
     
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    Okay
     
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    She was hot though.
     
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    That's awesome. Hope you had a good time.
     
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    I’m not saying you are but Biden wasn’t giving a speech about inflation. He was sepeicifically talking about MAGA Republicans who atill deny the election and are literally campaigning kn decertifying it’s. He was talking about those who think violence is justified in that cause and in defense of Trump.
    And does the FL bill or any of the other proposals address that? Consider also they regulations and other punitive measures against private businesses over cultural issues are likely to exacerbate economic problems than address them.
     
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    Well, we would never be able to be on the same page when it came to politics. She had these Palestinian rapper friends and was totally anti-Israel. She was actually also racist, in a weird way. Steadfastly believed that only dark-skinned women could be hot and spicy. The good news was, she was out to prove it. Anyway, nice girl overall. It was a while ago. She is married with a child now.

    P.S.: Gender studies is still a useless major :p
     
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    The FL bill is just signaling. Anyone with half a brain gets that. It's an anti-woke move, and of course also political posturing. It will have very little impact on the lives of most people.

    Inflation, on the other hand...
     
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    As a history nerd there was an actual strong fascist movement on the US during the depression they actually planned on overturning the 1932 election with something similar to what happened on Jan. 6. That fell apart when the general who was supposed to seize power turned against it.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/11/trump-fdr-roosevelt-coup-attempt-1930s
    It is very telling that in a time of relative prosperity we face these issues now. Economics might not play as strong a role in these type of movements and most of all these MAGA types have jobs with many doing quite well. Yet they are willing to risk their livelihoods for ideological issues.
     
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    So exactly as I’ve said. The bill is vague and a solution in search of a problem.
     
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    Okay so you aren’t a German citizen like you’ve said you were?? I don’t care where you are, and what citizenship you are. I care that people don’t lie about it to score points on an argument when it’s convenient to them. See white guy on Twitter saying “as a black woman…”

    I don’t have an informed opinion on current German politics other than historical significant moments. That’s why I’m not on German forums 8 hours a day posting about Olaf Shultz and trying to troll Shultz supporters. Some would consider that offensive.
     
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    You can tell Biden's speech was a threat to America by the number of bad, goofy, offensive, and inaccurate memes being created.

    Democrats should just forfeit every election from here on out. No way we can stand in front of the firepower unleashed by the meme warriors.
     
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    What is the gas prices right now? What percentages of students had their gender studies paid off? If you are going to troll and/or use a straw man cartoon at least be intelligent about it.
     
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    A lot of the gender studies majors I knew of ended up going to law school.
     
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    I am talking about Republicans and their hypocrisy
     
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    Yea. That plot (aka business plot) was to overthrow a "socialist" gov (FDR). A key point is that it was an elitist-driven plot. The common people wanted "socialist" policies (FDR) after suffering from the great depression. The business folks were very much against those policies and this plot was someone in wealthy America was trying to overthrow FDR (there wasn't strong evidence to directly tie to any particular busn figure). It was something that was roughly planned and far from any execution. The loss to the wealthy was the driving force.

    Today's anti-democratic movement isn't driven by economics. It's largely religious and cultural driven. The loss of the traditional "Christian" American identity is the main driving force.
     
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