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2022 Midterms

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Xerobull, Jan 8, 2021.

  1. No Worries

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    R extremism is a real thing. If Biden does not raise this issue now, when?

     
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  2. El_Conquistador

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    Liberals have no self awareness at all. It's hilarious!

     
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  3. FranchiseBlade

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    I get it and I believe you 100%. I also think that there are others who feel the same.

    That being said while you and others that feel the same don't like Trump’s divisiveness, there is a lack of willingness to force a change for Trump, or hold him accountable.

    People are threatening the FBI and have made attacks on them. Trump isn't speaking out against it, "Let's-all-get-along" Republicans aren't actively denouncing it and trying to force a change. Election deniers are winning Republican primaries.

    So the time has come to speak plainly and truthfully and hope that additional pressure can bring a change.

    Politically, it won't be good for Democrats or Biden. I don't believe you were going to vote for Biden no matter how nicely he spoke about everyone. I think there were many like that. Also, election deniers are easier opponents to beat in the general. So if Republicans managed to win primaries over the MAGA crowd, it would be worse for the Democrats, but better for the nation and Republicans.
     
  4. Space Ghost

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    There are people here who are still proud they voted Hillary.
     
  5. Astrodome

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    It's a bold strategy that I am sure his admin has vetted with numbers and polls. They must be assuming that the lean right undecideds arent numerous enough to alienate them away.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    The contrast in how Democrats handled things and Trump is amazing! This with the contrast from Trump should be a Democratic campaign ad.
     
  7. Major

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    There are people here who are so obsessed with Hillary that they still bring her up randomly for no reason despite her not having been relevant to politics in 6 years.
     
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  8. adoo

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    the one who had
    • claimed that she can see Russia from her backyard had and
    • previously quit in the middle of her 4-yr term as Gov of Alaska, so that she can devote all her time/energy to be a political celebrity.
    now as her celebrity status wanes, she wants to be a public servant again, :rolleyes:

    Alaskan voters can see thru the facade, rejecting her (the ultimate quitter) candidacy.

     
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  9. dmoneybangbang

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    More folks proud of voting for Trump.
     
  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Lol… Trumpers have no self awareness at all. It’s hilarious.

     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    The people who are criticizing abuse for not uniting or listening to the other side what do they expect Biden to do?

    Should Biden given a speech saying “Maybe he didn’t win the election” or “It’s Ok to attack law enforcement when you’re angry about an election”?

    I don’t know what middle ground can be found with people whom not only continue to claim that his election is illegitimate and that violence is justified to overturn it.
     
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  12. rocketsjudoka

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    Just to add Biden has passed more significant legislation with bipartisan support than any recent president. On action he actually is reaching the other side.

    To be fair to Trump he also had bipartisan action. Including getting members of both parties to vote to impeach him.
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes. This is exactly the point. It was time to call it out. And like I said, his speech would hurt Democrats in elections but be better for America as a whole.

    So while still calling people out, it was a matter of party over country.

    I hate that Democrats have used their money to help get election deniers to win primaries. I understand that they have a better chance to win against the election deniers, but some things just aren't worth the gamble.

    Props to Biden for telling the truth and choosing country over party.
     
  14. Amiga

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    That's exactly what they expected - is for Biden (and the Dem) to continue to play nice.

    I stated this before - Truth can be very uncomfortable but you need to go there if you feel the stake is too high. It's not just leadership, it's the right and ethical thing to do. I don't see it as political for this reason. It's above politics. It's the highest calling of a leader to do what's very uncomfortable but necessary. I believe Biden truly believed in unity and the possibility of all coming back to norm. He was naive and he finally woke up to the reality of it. It's not an easy step but he did what he had to do. He knew he would be attacked for it.

    We should also remember what Trump and some Republicans have been 'labeling' the left as. Communist. Fascist. Go back and watch his speech and read the right media, it's all there. The MSM didn't care much (it's Trump). The left didn't care much either. Perhaps that is because the left knows it's a lie and doesn't have an absolute strong need to correct a liar. What Biden did here, telling the truth struck the MAGA crowd and team Trump deeply. Perhaps because they know it's the truth and have an absolute strong need to continue to fool Americans (and maybe themselves).
     
  15. Space Ghost

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    Nobody should admit they voted for either. Voting for either is a mockery to our democracy.
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    So are you telling me both sides are the same?
     
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  17. Amiga

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    Clinton, like her, hate her or whatever, was never a threat to democracy.
     
  18. rocketsjudoka

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    I will repeat what I said back in 2016. Clinton is shady but Trump is in the dark.

    I have no regrets voting for Hillary Clinton over Trump and everything we’ve seen from Trump just reinforces that view.
     
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  19. Major

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    Space Ghost said Trump was no big deal, so now he's stuck defending an untenable position and back to "what about Hillary?!"ism. It's funny how hard he tries to be above the fray but just repeated gets stuck defending insane and indefensible positions. He amusingly did the same in the Ukraine thread trying to convince people that this is all a huge making by the west and ultimately trying to argue that Russia is not just doing OK but *prospering*.
     
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  20. Space Ghost

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    Its fascinating how you keep incorrectly speaking for me. I have always maintained a poor opinion of Trump, but somehow if I do not maintain that status quo position I am now a Trump supporter. I never once thought Trump was going to get us in nuclear wars or over throw the country. Hillary used the same rhetoric Trump used to destabilize an election and yet you have people on this page proudly claiming they voted for Hillary because ya know, "Stalin was bad, but at least he wasn't Hitler". Its really sad some how some of you fall for this nonsense. One day we will have someone run for president who really will be a threat to the foundation of this country because people keep insisting in letting the worst candidates win the nominations and refusing to hold their team accountable.

    You do the same nonsense with Ukraine. "We have to stop Putin because he is trying to rebuild the grand USSR and take over Europe and nuke the world" then 3 months later mocking and laughing talking about how his army is in disarray and he hasn't a clue what he is doing. The only people who have no clue are the arm chair quarterbacks who parrot the nonsense that comes from their favorite news source. "I read it on Twitter so its gotta be true!". All I have to do is throw out some random tweet with no context and you immediately start forming all kinds of opinions. Congrats Major, you won the internet today.
    And yes, Russia is doing much better than what most of you stated from the beginning. The sanctions were pointless as energy is paramount. This is blatantly obvious. And Russia will do fine until Europe settles their energy crisis. Given how stupid Europe has been with their energy policies, I am not confident this will be soon.
    Thanks for taking the time to play stupid internet games tho.
     

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